# Accident 20181114022529A: Piper PA-28-140, Presidio, TX, November 14, 2018

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: November 14, 2018, 19:00 local time
- Place: Presidio, TX
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Cruise/Level Flight
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 29.5642° N, 104.2700° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=29.5642&lon=-104.2700&mi=10
- Aircraft: N1715J, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N1715J-2021-07-31) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-140 (registry code 7102802, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-140) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-320 series (registry code 41508, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-140
- Reported engine: LYCOMING 0-320 SERIES
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 1
- Pilot certificates: Student
- Pilot flight hours: 200 total, 30 in this make and model, 20 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB WPR19LA027](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR19LA027) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20181114022529A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

THE STUDENT PILOT WAS INTERVIEWED BY THE NTSB AND FAA.

THE STUDENT PILOT BROADCASTED A MAY-DAY CALL DUE TO A ROUGH RUNNING ENGINE.  THE MAY-DAY WAS RELAYED BY OTHER AIRCRAFT TO ATO.  THE AIRCRAFT MADE A FORCED LANDING APPROXIMATELY 6.5 MILES EAST OF PRESIDIO, TEXAS.  THE STUDENT PILOT DID NOT MAKE DIRECT CONTACT WITH ATO.

THE STUDENT PILOT SAID PRIOR TO THE FORCED LANDING, HE LANDED ON A "RANCH" RUNWAY SOMEWHERE SOUTH OF ALPINE, TEXAS.  HE LANDED THERE BECAUSE THE ENGINE WAS RUNNING ROUGH.  HE COULD NOT FIND ASSISTANCE ON THE REMOTE FIELD, SO HE RAN THE ENGINE FOR SEVERAL MINUTES ON THE GROUND.  THE ENGINE SEEMED TO "CLEAR-UP" AND WAS MAKING POWER, SO HE TOOK-OFF AGAIN HEADING FOR PRESIDIO, TEXAS.

HE TOLD INVESTIGATORS THE ENGINE BEGAN TO RUN ROUGH AGAIN.  HE TRIED TO USE THE BOOST-PUMP, CARB-HEAT, AND ENGINE PRIMER, BUT COULD NOT GET THE ENGINE TO MAKE POWER.  HE THEN EXECUTED THE FORCED LANDING.

INSPECTION OF BOTH FUEL TANKS REVEALED THE LEFT FUEL TANK WAS EMPTY.  THE RIGHT TANK CONTAINED APPROXIMATELY 15 GALLONS OF FUEL.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB WPR19LA027](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR19LA027), Nov 14, 2018: Piper PA28 (N1715J), Presidio, TX, substantial damage. Probable cause: The student pilot’s loss of control at low altitude during a forced landing, which resulted in impact with terrain and substantial damage to the right wing. A contributing factor in the accident was…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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