# Accident 20191203021089A: British Aerospace BAE 125 SERIES 800A, Detroit, MI, December 3, 2019 - Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported - Date: December 3, 2019, 08:35 local time - Place: Detroit, MI - Damage: Substantial damage - Phase of flight: Landing: Touchdown - Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91) - Operator: U48A - Location: 42.4094° N, 83.0103° W: From the FAA - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.4094&lon=-83.0103&mi=10 - Aircraft: N469RJ, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N469RJ) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry model: British Aerospace BAE 125 SERIES 800A (registry code 1500285, https://openairdocs.org/model/british-aerospace-bae-125-series-800a) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: AiResearch TFE731 series (registry code 01518, https://openairdocs.org/engine/airesearch-tfe731-series) (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: BRITISH AEROSPACE BAE 125 SERIES 800A - Reported engine: AIRESEARCH TFE731 SER - People aboard: 2 - Fatal injuries: 0 - Other injuries: 0 - Pilot certificates: Airline transport, flight instructor - Pilot flight hours: 18,500 total, 9,794 in this make and model, 150 in the last 90 days - NTSB investigation: [NTSB CEN20LA028](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CEN20LA028) (OpenAirDocs) - FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/) - Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20191203021089A ## Narrative As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^. ON 12/3/2019 AT 08:35 EASTERN TIME, N769RJ WAS INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT DURING A LANDING ATTEMPT AT DET AIRPORT. THE FLIGHT WAS A REPOSITION FLIGHT FROM YIP INTENDING TO PICK UP PASSENGERS AT DET. ON BOARD DURING THE ACCIDENT WERE THE PILOT AND COPILOT. THERE WERE NO INJURIES BUT THE AIRPLANE SUSTAINED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE. WHEN INVESTIGATORS ARRIVED ON SCENE, THE AIRCRAFT WAS OFF RUNWAY IN THE GRASS. THE NOSE GEAR WAS COLLAPSED, THE OUTER RIGHT WING AND TIP WERE DAMAGED AND BENT UP, AND BOTH ENGINES WERE STILL RUNNING AT LOW POWER. NUMEROUS FIRE AND POLICE OFFICIALS WITH EQUIPMENT WERE ON SCENE. DIRECTOR OF MAINTENANCE FOR THE AIRLINE WAS ALREADY ON SITE AND HAD ATTEMPTED TO SHUT THE ENGINES OFF UNDER ESCORT FROM LOCAL FIRE / POLICE OFFICIALS. ALL AIRCRAFT POWER WAS TURNED OFF. FUEL CONTROL AND EMERGENCY T HANDLES WERE NON RESPONSIVE THOUGHT TO HAVE BEEN DISABLED BY BACKWARDS COLLAPSE OF THE NOSE GEAR. AIRCRAFT WAS CARRYING A FULL LOAD OF FUEL AND IT WAS ESTIMATED TO TAKE UP TO 22 HOURS OF RUNNING AS IS BEFORE THE ENGINES WOULD EXHAUST THE FUEL SUPPLY. COMMUNICATION FROM AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURER WERE TO HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SPRAY WATER INTO THE ENGINES UNTIL EXTINGUISHED. TWO ATTEMPTS WERE MADE WITH A 1100 GALLON FIRE TRUCK AND A CONTROLLABLE NOZZLE SPRAYING FROM 50 THEN 40 FEET AWAY. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THEN RAN 3? HOSES FROM A HYDRANT TO A LADDER TRUCK POSITIONING A CONTROLLABLE NOZZLE WITHIN 8 FEET OF THE LH ENGINE. ENGINE WAS EXTINGUISHED WITHIN 30 SECONDS FOLLOWED BY THE RH ENGINE SHORTLY THEREAFTER. EXAMINATION OF AIRFRAME FOUND DAMAGE TO RIGHT WING FROM HITTING PAVEMENT AND NOSE GEAR FOLDED BACK UNDER COCKPIT. RIME ICE WAS FOUND ON NON-TKS PARTS OF THE OUTER LH WING . INSPECTORS WALKED THE PATH OF AIRCRAFT FROM FIRST TOUCH ON PAVEMENT TO REST. FIRST TOUCH OF RH WING SEEN ON THE APRON AREA PRIOR TO THE START OF THE RUNWAY. IMPACT AND GOUGE FROM NOSE GEAR LOCATED NEAR EAST EDGE OF RUNWAY AT FIRST (SOUTH) TAXIWAY. RIGHT MAIN GEAR TIRE MARKS BEGIN ALMOST ON TOP OF NOSE GEAR MARKS. AIRCRAFT EXITED RUNWAY AT A SLIGHT ANGLE TO THE RIGHT TRAVELING THE LENGTH OF THE GRASS MEDIAN, CROSSING THE NEXT TAXI WAY AND TRAVELING ACROSS MOST OF THE NEXT GRASS MEDIAN. AIRCRAFT TRAVELED ABOUT HALF THE RUNWAY LENGTH. TKS TANK WAS PARTIALLY DRAINED TO DETERMINE SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF FLUID WAS ONBOARD AIRCRAFT AT TIME OF ACCIDENT. ## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB CEN20LA028](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CEN20LA028), Dec 3, 2019: BAE BAE125 (N469RJ), Detroit, MI, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilots’ failure to increase approach speed as recommended for flight in icing conditions, which resulted in an aerodynamic stall and subsequent impact with terrain. Contributing to the accident… From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.