# Accident 20200503001049A: Waco QCF, Shirley, NY, May 3, 2020

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: May 3, 2020, 16:00 local time
- Place: Shirley, NY
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Landing: Rollout
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 40.8281° N, 72.8656° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.8281&lon=-72.8656&mi=10
- Aircraft: N11457, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N11457-2022-06-21) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Waco QCF (registry code 9600408, https://openairdocs.org/model/waco-qcf) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Continental W670 series (registry code 17018, https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-w670-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: WACO QCF
- Reported engine: CONT MOTOR W670 SERIES
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Private pilot
- Pilot flight hours: 697 total, 86 in this make and model, 33 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB ERA20CA175](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA20CA175) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20200503001049A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

15:50 EDT AIRCRAFT N11457 LANDS KHWV. PILOT REPORTS EXECUTING A FULL STALL 3 POINT LANDING ON RUNWAY 24 RIGHT GRASS , PILOT STATES HE THEN APPLIED LIGHT DIFFERENTIAL BRAKE PRESSURE TO SLOW THE AIRCRAFT TO TURNING SPEED TO EXIT THE RUNWAY. AIRCRAFT GROUND LOOPED, ROLLING OVER STRIKING VERTICAL TAIL SURFACE, RH WING AND PROP IN GRASS. PILOT EXITED AIRCRAFT WITHOUT INJURY. DAMAGE NOTED TO PROP, VERTICAL STAB. RUDDER, AND WING STRUCTURE.

PILOT STATES AIRCRAFT WAS FULL FUEL WHICH PUTS AIRCRAFT IN A FOWARD CG BUT WAS WITHIN CG LIMIT. PILOT DOES NOT USALLY LAND WITH FULL FUEL (FWD CG)

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ERA20CA175](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA20CA175), May 3, 2020: Waco QCF (N11457), Shirley, NY, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to maintain control of the airplane during the landing roll, which resulted in a nose over.

## Other reports on N11457 (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 20110731019709I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20110731019709I), Jul 31, 2011: Waco QCF (N11457), North Kingstown, RI, Minor damage. Pilot reported he was landing on runwy 34 at oqu. He reported the winds at 340 at 8 knts. He ground looped the aircraft and the lower RH wing struck the ground…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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