# Accident 20200924016769A: Great Lakes 2T-1A-2, San Diego, CA, September 24, 2020

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: September 24, 2020, 16:24 local time
- Place: San Diego, CA
- Airport: Montgomery
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Takeoff: Climb Out
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 32.8143° N, 117.1412° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=32.8143&lon=-117.1412&mi=10
- Aircraft: N3617L, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N3617L-2021-03-06) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Great Lakes 2T-1A-2 (registry code 3910101, https://openairdocs.org/model/great-lakes-2t-1a-2) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming AEIO-360 series (registry code 41522, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-aeio-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: GREAT LAKES 2T-1A-2
- Reported engine: LYCOMING AEIO-360 SER
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 2
- Pilot certificates: Airline transport
- Pilot flight hours: 11,000 total, 1,600 in this make and model, 220 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB WPR20LA320](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR20LA320) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20200924016769A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT, RECEIVING TAILWHEEL INSTRUCTION, TOOK OFF FROM MYF AIRPORT ON RUNWAY 28R.  INSTRUCTOR STATED SHORTLY AFTER TAKEOFF AIRCRAFT LOST POWER, NO INDICATIONS WERE NOTICED, AIRCRAFT JUST LOST POWER.  INSTRUCTOR ATTEMPTED TO RETURN TO AIRPORT, HOWEVER, LANDED HARD SHORT OF THE AIRPORT.  BOTH INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT RECEIVED SERIOUS INJURIES.  AIRCRAFT HAS SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB WPR20LA320](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR20LA320), Sep 24, 2020: Great Lakes 2T1A (N3617L), San Diego, CA, substantial damage. Probable cause: A loss of engine power for reasons that could not be determined, which resulted in a hard landing off airport.

## Other reports on N3617L (2)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 20200618005959I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20200618005959I), Jun 18, 2020: Great Lakes 2T-1A-2 (N3617L), San Diego, CA, Minor damage. On June 18, 2020 at kmyf airport approximately 13:45, N3617L nosed over on the ramp after start up. The propeller made contact with the ground. Minor damage to…
- [Incident 20180610007529I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20180610007529I), Jun 10, 2018: Great Lakes 2T-1A-2 (N3617L), San Diego, CA, Minor damage. On landing rollout, the PIC experienced a shimmy in the tailwheel and took corrective action. The shimmy returned and in an attempt to regain control of the…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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