# Accident 20230624009199A: Piper PA-28-181, Howell, MI, June 24, 2023

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: June 24, 2023, 10:30 local time
- Place: Howell, MI
- Airport: Livingston County Spencer J Ha
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Landing: Approach
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 42.6235° N, 83.9718° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.6235&lon=-83.9718&mi=10
- Aircraft: N4008Q, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N4008Q-2024-04-27) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-181 (registry code 7102807, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O&VO-360 series (registry code 41514, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-181
- Reported engine: LYCOMING O&VO-360 SER
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Private pilot
- Pilot flight hours: 328 total
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB CEN23LA266](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CEN23LA266) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20230624009199A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

DURING APPROACH FOR A TOUCH AND GO THE PILOT APPLIED POWER TO ARREST DESCENT AND THE ENGINE DID NOT RESPOND, CARB HEAT WAS ON AT THE TIME AND THEN TURNED OFF WITH NO CHANGE IN POWER.

THE AIRCRAFT LANDED SHORT OF THE RUNWAY AND STRUCK THE ILS LOCALIZER ANTENNAS.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CEN23LA266](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CEN23LA266), Jun 24, 2023: Piper PA-28-181 (N4008Q), Howell, MI, substantial damage. Probable cause: A loss of engine power due to the formation of carburetor ice that resulted from the pilot’s delayed use of carburetor heat during the landing approach.

## Other reports on N4008Q (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 20060816026729A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20060816026729A), Aug 16, 2006: Piper PA28181 (N4008Q), Napoleon, MI, Substantial damage. (-23) Aircraft overran runway, departed airport property. Substantial damage resulted from collision with fence at adjacent storage facility. No injuries.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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