# Incident 20231111019809I: American Champion Aircraft 8KCAB, St. Augustine, FL, November 11, 2023

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: November 11, 2023, 09:46 local time
- Place: St. Augustine, FL
- Damage: No damage
- Phase of flight: Landing: Rollout
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 29.8960° N, 81.3116° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of St. Augustine, FL, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=29.8960&lon=-81.3116&mi=10
- Aircraft: N751U, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N751U) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: American Champion 8KCAB (registry code 2121000, https://openairdocs.org/model/american-champion-8kcab) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming AEIO-360-H1B (registry code 41883, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-aeio-360-h1b) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: AMERICAN CHAMPION AIRCRAFT 8KCAB
- Reported engine: LYCOMING AEIO-360-H1B
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot, flight instructor, private pilot, student
- Pilot flight hours: 1,200 total, 300 in this make and model, 100 in the last 90 days
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20231111019809I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

REPORTED BY THE INSTRUCTOR:

NORMAL PREFLIGHT AND BRIEFING WITH THE STUDENT ON THE CONTENT OF THE FLIGHT.  AN AEROBATIC TRAINING FLIGHT WAS CONDUCTED WITH A FOCUS ON UPSET RECOVERY. WHEN COMING BACK INTO LAND STUDENT WAS AT THE CONTROLS, APPROACH TO LANDING WAS NORMAL, INITIAL TOUCHDOWN WAS ALIGNED WITH THE CENTERLINE AND NORMAL. THE STUDENT HAD THE RIGHT BRAKE ENGAGED WHICH CAUSED THE PLANE TO VEER RIGHT AFTER TOUCHDOWN. THE INSTRUCTOR STATED THAT THEY CANNOT SEE THE STUDENT’S RUDDERS/BRAKES FROM THE BACKSEAT, AND ASSUMED THAT THEY HAD THE RUDDER ENGAGED AND INSTRUCTED THEM TO ADD THE LEFT RUDDER. THE INSTRUCTOR CALLED FOR THE CONTROLS AND TRIED TO REALIGN THE AIRCRAFT WITH THE CENTERLINE. THE STUDENT STILL HAD THE RIGHT BRAKE INPUT SO APPLICATION OF THE LEFT RUDDER WAS NOT EFFECTIVE ANOUGH TO REALIGN THE AIRCRAFT. THE INSTRUCTOR MANAGED CONTROL OF THE AIRCRAFT AFTER THE STUDENT RELEASED THE BRAKE AND AVOID A GROUNDLOOP. THE AIRCRAFT CAME TO REST OFF THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE RUNWAY. NO AIRPORT PROPERTY OR AIRCRAFT WAS DAMAGED.

THE STUDENT HAD A HISTORY OF FLYING LIGHT SPORT AIRCRAFT AND THIS WAS THEIR FIRST FLIGHT IN A TAILWHEEL AIRCRAFT. HE REPORTED THAT DURING THE LANDING/ ROLLOUT, LANDING BEGAN TO "GO BAD" AND THAT THE INSTRUCTOR QUICKLY TOOK OVER PREVENTING A WORSE OUTCOME.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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