# Accident 20240816010959A: Cessna 172M, Orlando, FL, August 16, 2024 - Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported - Date: August 16, 2024, 14:02 local time - Place: Orlando, FL - Damage: Substantial damage - Phase of flight: Landing: Touchdown - Operating rules: Pilot school (Part 141) - Operator: 63CS - Location: 28.5442° N, 81.3353° W: From the FAA - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=28.5442&lon=-81.3353&mi=10 - Aircraft: N61859, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N61859) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry model: Cessna 172M (registry code 2072418, https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172m) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: Lycoming 0-320 series (registry code 41508, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: CESSNA 172M - Reported engine: LYCOMING 0-320 SERIES - People aboard: 2 - Fatal injuries: 0 - Other injuries: 0 - Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot, flight instructor, private pilot, student - Pilot flight hours: 800 total, 531 in this make and model, 110 in the last 90 days - NTSB investigation: [NTSB ERA24LA348](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA24LA348) (OpenAirDocs) - FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/) - Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20240816010959A ## Narrative As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^. TOWER REPORT: THE AIRCRAFT WAS A FULL STOP, BOUNCED UPON LANDING, APPEARED TO OVER CORRECT AND VEERED INTO THE DITCH. THE PILOT CALLED THE TOWER ON THE TELEPHONE, STATED NO ONE WAS INJURED. GOAA CALLED ON THE TELEPHONE TO GET THE AIRCRAFT'S TAIL NUMBER AND SAID THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A CRANE COME TO REMOVE THE PLANE FROM THE DITCH. I ADVISED THEM NOT TO MOVE THE AIRCRAFT UNTIL THE NTSB IS CONTACTED AND SAYS IT'S OKAY TO DO SO. 1853Z 06009GI 7KT 030V090 I0SM SCT075 32/19 A3002 PILOT REPORT: AN INSTRUCTIONAL FLIGHT WITH A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR AND CHECK RIDE PREP PPL STUDENT DOING MANEUVERS. COMING BACK INTO LAND THE WINDS WERE REPORTED 070 @10G19 LANDING AND DEPARTING RUNWAY SEVEN. THE PLAN WAS TO DO A SHORT FIELD LANDING PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AS HE IS GETTING READY FOR HIS CHECK RIDE. AFTER HEARING THE WINDS, IT WAS DECIDED THAT A SOFT FIELD LANDING WOULD BE A BETTER PRACTICE FOR THE CONDITIONS AS WE CAN HAVE GAINS AND LOSSES OF AIRSPEED DUE TO THE GUSTS. THE APPROACH TO LANDING WAS RELATIVELY NORMAL WITH NO SIGNIFICANT ISSUES. ONCE WE GOT INTO GROUND EFFECT, THE STUDENT BALLOONED THE FIRST TIME AND TURNED SLIGHTLY SIDEWAYS AND THE STUDENT ADDED SOME POWER TO SOFTEN HIS SOFT FIELD LANDING, THE INSTRUCTOR ADVISED TO ADD RUDDER TO STRAIGHTEN US OUT. AT THIS POINT THE STUDENT FROZE UP AND CONTINUED TO BALLOON AND ADDED TO MUCH POWER SUDDENLY WE BEGAN TO FLOAT LOSING AIRSPEED, TURNING SIDEWAYS ABRUPTLY OFF THE RUNWAY QUICKLY SINKING TOWARD THE GRASS. THE STUDENT DID NOT PROPERLY CORRECT WITH RUDDER NOR DID THEY EXECUTE A GO AROUND AS TRAINED. AS WE WERE SINKING OFF THE SIDE OF THE RUNWAY, THE INSTRUCTOR IMMEDIATELY TOOK FLIGHT CONTROLS AND ATTEMPTED A GO AROUND. WITH BEING THIS LOW LEVEL AND FULL FLAPS, THE PLANE DID NOT CLIMB WITH THE HIGH DENSITY ALTITUDE, ALONG WITH WHAT IT FELT LIKE A SUDDEN DROP IN AIRSPEED DUE TO GUSTING WINDS. THE INSTRUCTOR ADDED FULL POWER AND ATTEMPTED TO GAIN ENOUGH AIRSPEED TO CLIMB WITH PITCH. UNFORTUNATELY, WITHIN SECONDS WE WERE UNABLE TO GAIN A POSITIVE RATE OF CLIMB AND LANDED IN A SMALL BODY OF WATER OFF THE SIDE OF THE RUNWAY. THE INSTRUCTOR IMMEDIATELY OPENED THE DOOR, TURNED OFF BATTERY AND ALTERNATOR AND GOT THE STUDENT TO SAFETY. BOTH INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT WERE COMPLETELY UNHARMED. ## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB ERA24LA348](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA24LA348), Aug 16, 2024: Cessna 172 (N61859), Orlando, FL, substantial damage. Probable cause: The student pilot's failure to maintain directional control during while landing with a crosswind. Contributing was the instructor’s delayed remedial action. ## Other reports on N61859 (1) Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date. - [Accident 20230427005422A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20230427005422A), Apr 27, 2023: Cessna 172M (N61859), Orlando, FL, Substantial damage. Aircraft was rented to certificated pilot, who had trouble starting the engine. Pilot then asked non-certificated flight school employee for assistance. While… From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.