# Incident 20241014014999I: Piper PA-24, Hawthorne, CA, October 14, 2024

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: October 14, 2024, 13:45 local time
- Place: Hawthorne, CA
- Airport: Jack Northrop Field/Hawthorne
- Damage: Minor damage
- Phase of flight: Landing: Touchdown
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 33.9229° N, 118.3351° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at JACK NORTHROP FLD/HAWTHORNE MUNI (HHR), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.9229&lon=-118.3351&mi=10
- Aircraft: N5316P, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N5316P) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-24 (registry code 7102402, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-24) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O&VO-360 series (registry code 41514, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-24
- Reported engine: LYCOMING O-540-A1C5
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot
- Pilot flight hours: 363 total, 1 in this make and model, 1 in the last 90 days
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20241014014999I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

THE PIC AND HIS INSTRUCTOR WERE CONDUCTING TRAFFIC PATTERN OPERATIONS AT HAWTHORNE AIRPORT ON 10/14/2024 IN ORDER TO FAMILIARIZE THE PIC WITH HIS NEW AIRCRAFT AND MEET INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS. ON THE THIRD LAP, THE PIC AND INSTRUCTOR STATED THAT THE PIC LOWERED THE LANDING GEAR AS A PART OF HIS DOWNWIND FLOWS, BUT NEITHER PILOT CAN REMEMBER VERIFYING THE LANDING GEAR WAS DEPLOYED BY NOTING THAT THE GREEN GEAR DOWN LOCKED LIGHT WAS ILLUMINATED. THE INSTRUCTOR DESCRIBED DISTRACTIONS WITH THE FLAP DEPLOYMENT ON THE BASE TO FINAL LEG AND A SUBSEQUENT FOCUS ON THE PIC'S AIRSPEED AND PITCH ATTITUDE, WHICH LED TO MISSING HIS USUAL GUMPS CONFIRMATION ON SHORT FINALS. SECURITY CAMERA FOOTAGE SHOWS ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ FLYING OVER THE THRESHOLD OF RUNWAY 25 WITH THE LANDING GEAR RETRACTED. NEITHER PILOT REMEMBERS HEARING THE AUDIBLE LANDING GEAR WARNING SOUND. AT APPROXIMATELY 14:45PM PT, ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ LANDED WITH THE LANDING GEAR RETRACTED, TRAVELLING APPROXIMATELY 450FT. BOTH OCCUPANTS EXITED THE AIRCRAFT WITH NO INJURIES.

A MECHANIC FROM A LOCAL BUSINESS ARRIVED ON SCENE TO ASSIST IN THE REMOVAL OF THE AIRCRAFT FROM THE RUNWAY. HE NOTED THAT UPON ENTERING THE COCKPIT THE GEAR LEVER WAS IN THE DOWN POSITION. HE WAS ABLE TO ACTUATE THE LANDING GEAR TO FULL DOWN AND LOCKED, NOTING IN THE PROCESS THE WARNING HORN AND GREEN GEAR POSITION LIGHT WERE FUNCTIONAL.

## Other reports on N5316P (2)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 20071004826939I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20071004826939I), Oct 4, 2007: Piper PA24 (N5316P), Cameron Park, CA, Minor damage. (-23) Aircraft had charging system malfunction enroute. Upon arrival at destination pilot used emergency gear down procedures. Due to low electric system…
- [Incident 19871007070549I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19871007070549I), Oct 7, 1987: Piper PA24 (N5316P), Ionia, MI, Minor damage. Student was unable to extend the gear. Manual extension was used. The wheels collapsed on landing.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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