# Accident 20250801021009A: Piper J5C, Rochester, NY, August 1, 2025 - Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported - Date: August 1, 2025, 13:33 local time - Place: Rochester, NY - Damage: Substantial damage - Phase of flight: Cruise/Level Flight - Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91) - Location: 43.1938° N, 77.6216° W: From the FAA - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.1938&lon=-77.6216&mi=10 - Aircraft: N28151, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N28151) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry model: Piper J5C (registry code 7100712, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-j5c) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: Lycoming 0-235 series (registry code 41505, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER J5C - People aboard: 2 - Fatal injuries: 1 - Other injuries: 1 - Pilot certificates: Airline transport - Pilot flight hours: 7,577 total, 161 in the last 90 days - NTSB investigation: [NTSB ERA25FA283](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA25FA283) (OpenAirDocs) - FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/) - Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20250801021009A ## Narrative As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^. ON AUGUST 1, 2025, ABOUT 1330 EASTERN DAYLIGHT TIME, A PIPER J5C, WAS SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED WHEN IT WAS INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT NEAR ROCHESTER, NEW YORK. THE PASSENGER WAS FATALLY INJURED, AND THE PILOT WAS SERIOUSLY INJURED. THE AIRPLANE WAS OPERATED AS A TITLE 14 CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS PART 91 PERSONAL FLIGHT. ACCORDING TO THE PILOT, THE AIRPLANE HAD NOT FLOWN IN SEVERAL MONTHS AND HE HAD TO REMOVE MUD DAUBER NESTS FROM THE WINGS. THEY TOOK OFF FROM A PRIVATE RUNWAY, WHICH WAS THE OWNER/PASSENGER’S, ON THE WEST SIDE OF ROCHESTER, NEW YORK AND FLEW EAST FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES TO WHITFORDS AIRPORT (B16), WEEDSPORT, NEW YORK. THEY PUT 6 GALLONS OF FUEL IN THE AIRPLANE. THE FUEL SIGHT GAUGES IN EACH WING INDICATED FULL FUEL TANKS WHEN THEY DEPARTED. THE PILOT ADDED THAT DURING THE RETURN FLIGHT HOME, ABOUT 20 MINUTES INTO THE FLIGHT, THE ENGINE STARTED TO SURGE. THE ENGINE RPM WOULD GO FROM FULL RPM OF ABOUT 2,300 RPM TO IDLE. THEN SECONDS LATER, THE ENGINE WOULD RETURN TO FULL POWER. EACH TIME THE ENGINE WOULD SURGE AND GO TO AN IDLE SETTING, THE PILOT WOULD LOOK FOR A PLACE TO LAND, EITHER A PARKING LOT OR STREET. WHEN THE ENGINE WOULD RETURN TO FULL POWER, THE PILOT WOULD CLIMB AND TRY TO GET AS MUCH ALTITUDE AS POSSIBLE. ON THE FIFTH OR SIXTH TIME THE ENGINE SURGED, IT LOST ALL POWER, AND THE PILOT TRIED TO MAKE A FORCED LANDING ON A STREET. DURING THE APPROACH TO LAND, THE AIRPLANE CONTACTED THE TOP OF A TREE AND THEN IMPACTED THE GROUND. THE ACCIDENT SITE WAS COMPACT AND ALL MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE AIRPLANE WERE PRESENT. THE AIRPLANE’S SIX PROPELLER BOLTS MADE 1” IMPRESSION MARKS IN THE BLACKTOP ABOUT 10 FEET AWAY FROM THE MAIN WRECKAGE. THE MAIN WRECKAGE CAME TO REST INVERTED AND ORIENTED ON A HEADING OF 235°. THE LEADING EDGES OF BOTH WINGS WERE ACCORDION CRUSHED AFT DOWN THEIR ENTIRE LENGTHS. THE FABRIC WAS TORN ON THE WINGS AND EMPENNAGE FROM IMPACT FORCES. THE EMPENNAGE WAS BENT UPWARD AND FORWARD. THE INSTRUMENT PANEL WAS CRUSHED AFT. FLIGHT CONTROL CONTINUITY WAS ESTABLISHED FROM THE COCKPIT CONTROLS TO ALL FLIGHT CONTROL SURFACES. NO ELECTRICAL SYSTEM WAS INSTALLED IN THE AIRPLANE. THE RUDDER AND ELEVATOR WERE INTACT AND UNREMARKABLE. THE AILERONS WERE INSTALLED AND INTACT. THE LEFT AILERON CONNECTING ROD WAS IMPACT FRACTURED. BOTH WING FUEL TANKS WERE BREACHED. THERE WAS NO FUEL IN EITHER TANK. THE FUEL GASOLATOR WAS REMOVED. DIRT AND DEBRIS WAS FOUND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GASOLATOR. AIR WAS BLOWN THROUGH THE FUEL LINES AND NO OBSTRUCTIONS WERE NOTED. NO MUD DAUBER NESTS WERE FOUND IN THE FUEL SYSTEM; HOWEVER, MUCH OF THE SYSTEM, INCLUDING THE VENT, WAS IMPACT DAMAGED. THE WOODEN PROPELLER WAS STILL CONNECTED TO THE ENGINE’S PROPELLER FLANGE. ONE PROPELLER BLADE WAS FRACTURED AND SPLINTERED. THE SPINNER DOME WAS CRUSHED. THE PROPELLER FLANGE WAS IMPACT DAMAGED AND THE CRANKSHAFT WAS BENT. THE MAGNETOS WERE REMOVED AND THEIR INPUT DRIVES WERE ROTATED BY HAND. THE LEFT MAGNETO PRODUCED SPARK ON ALL LEADS. THE RIGHT MAGNETO WAS IMPACT DAMAGED AND THE INTERNAL GEARS WERE CRUSHED. THE RIGHT MAGNETO ROTATED BUT DID NOT SPARK. THE CARBURETOR WAS FRACTURED INTO SEVERAL PIECES FROM IMPACT WITH THE GROUND. THE PROPELLER WAS ROTATED BY HAND AND THUMB COMPRESSION WAS ESTABLISHED ON ALL CYLINDERS. A LIGHTED BORESCOPE WAS USED TO INSPECT THE INSIDE OF ALL OF THE ENGINE’S CYLINDERS WITH NO ANOMALIES NOTED. ## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB ERA25FA283](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA25FA283), Aug 1, 2025: Piper J5C (N28151), Rochester, NY, substantial damage, 1 fatal, investigation ongoing From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.