# NTSB investigations: Piper PA-28-161: Loss of control - on ground/water

NTSB aviation accident and incident investigations since 1962: the probable cause, findings, aircraft, crew, weather and docket of each, linked to the FAA registry and the FAA’s own reports.

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## Latest cases

- [NTSB MIA08CA022](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA08CA022.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Orlando, FL · Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report · Nov 28, 2007 · N148ND · Substantial damage
  > The student pilot's failure to maintain directional control during landing.
- [NTSB CHI08CA002](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI08CA002.md): Piper PA28-161 · Grand Forks, ND · Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report · Oct 3, 2007 · N437ND · Substantial damage
  > The lack of experience and the excessive taxi speed by the pilot. A contributing factors was the airport sign.
- [NTSB ATL06CA105](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL06CA105.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Griffin, GA · Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report · Jul 14, 2006 · N546CA · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's failure to maintain direction control of the airplane during the landing roll.
- [NTSB NYC06CA057](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC06CA057.md): Piper PA-28-161 · New Haven, CT · Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report · Jan 22, 2006 · N9284A · Substantial damage
  > The student pilot's improper flare and inadequate recovery from a bounced landing, which resulted in a loss of aircraft control during landing and subsequent impact with a ditch.
- [NTSB MIA06CA011](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA06CA011.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Vero Beach, FL · Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report · Oct 19, 2005 · N9234V · Substantial damage
  > The failure of the pilot to maintain directional control of the airplane during the landing roll resulting in the on-ground collision with runway signs.
- [NTSB CHI05CA105](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI05CA105.md): Piper PA-28-161 · South Bend, IN · Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report · Apr 25, 2005 · N2833F · Substantial damage
  > The student pilot failed to compensate for the crosswind condition and failed to maintain directional control. Factors included the crosswind and the windsock.
- [NTSB LAX05CA098](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX05CA098.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Chandler, AZ · Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report · Feb 17, 2005 · N80565 · Substantial damage
  > the students pilot's failure to maintain directional control resulting in a collision with the taxiway sign.
- [NTSB LAX05CA093](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX05CA093.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Roosevelt, AZ · Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report · Feb 10, 2005 · N973EL · Substantial damage
  > the pilot's failure to maintain directional control.
- [NTSB LAX05CA067](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX05CA067.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Tucson, AZ · Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report · Jan 8, 2005 · N8351W · Substantial damage
  > the pilot's failure to maintain directional control during landing rollout.
- [NTSB LAX05CA047](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX05CA047.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Kapolei, HI · Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report · Dec 8, 2004 · N140ND · Substantial damage
  > the pilot's failure to maintain directional control, which resulted in a collision with an obstacle.
- [NTSB MIA05CA041](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA05CA041.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Holly Springs, MS · Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report · Dec 4, 2004 · N3570J · Substantial damage
  > The failure of the pilot to maintain directional control of the airplane while performing a go-around after a bounced landing, resulting in the on ground collision with trees.
- [NTSB IAD04FA033](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/IAD04FA033.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Toughkenamon, PA · Accident · 4 fatal · Field investigation · Final report · Jul 25, 2004 · N38355 · Destroyed
  > The pilot's decision to add power, in an attempt to abort the landing after the airplane had veered off the runway. A factor was the pilot's failure to maintain directional control after the landing.
- [NTSB IAD02LA066](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/IAD02LA066.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Providence, RI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 4, 2002 · N8081G · Substantial damage
  > The student pilot's failure to maintain directional control during the landing.
- [NTSB NYC02LA066](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC02LA066.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Atlantic City, NJ · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Feb 23, 2002 · N9182X · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's failure to obtain a proper touchdown point.
- [NTSB LAX02LA060](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX02LA060.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Long Beach, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Dec 29, 2001 · N4390S · Substantial damage
  > The student pilot's inadequate compensation for wind, and his failure to maintain directional control of the aircraft during the landing roll.
- [NTSB CHI02LA045](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI02LA045.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Devils Lake, ND · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Dec 3, 2001 · N248ND · Substantial damage
  > The student pilot's failure to maintain directional control of the airplane during the takeoff phase of a touch and go landing. Factors associated with the accident were the student's lack of total experience and the runway light which the airplane contacted.
- [NTSB FTW01LA197](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW01LA197.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Ardmore, OK · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Aug 24, 2001 · N81833 · Substantial damage
  > the student pilot's failure to maintain directional control during takeoff roll.
- [NTSB NYC00LA175](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC00LA175.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Robbinsville, NJ · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 25, 2000 · N36355 · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's inadequate compensation for wind conditions, which resulted in a loss of aircraft control. A factor was a crosswind.
- [NTSB FTW00LA185](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW00LA185.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Mckinney, TX · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 24, 2000 · N8427K · Substantial damage
  > The flight instructor's inadequate supervision of the landing resulting in the loss of directional control by the student pilot.
- [NTSB NYC00LA089](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC00LA089.md): Piper PA-28-161 · West Milford, NJ · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Mar 5, 2000 · N2761M · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during landing. A factor in this accident was the gusty crosswind conditions.
- [NTSB LAX00LA094](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX00LA094.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Honolulu, HI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Feb 6, 2000 · N140ND · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's improper use of the brakes during the landing rollout. The pilot's self induced pressure and the quartering tailwind were factors in the accident.
- [NTSB CHI99LA279](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI99LA279.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Schaumburg, IL · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Aug 8, 1999 · N2366W · Substantial damage
  > the CFI's delay in taking remedial action to maintain directional control of the airplane. A factor associated with the accident was the student's improper use of the brakes.
- [NTSB CHI99LA161](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI99LA161.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Mineral Point, WI · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · May 24, 1999 · N2941Y · Substantial damage
  > the inadequate planning and decision by the pilot and the exceeded crosswind capability of the airplane. Contributing factors were the crosswind and the gusts.
- [NTSB CHI99LA133](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI99LA133.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Morris, IL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Apr 24, 1999 · N38968 · Substantial damage
  > the directional control not maintained by the pilot. Contributing factors were the wind gusts, crosswind and runway light.
- [NTSB IAD99LA037](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/IAD99LA037.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Zelienople, PA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Apr 6, 1999 · N8133H · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's inadequate preflight planning to practice crosswind landings in wind that exceeded the airplane's demonstrated capability and his failure to maintain directional control. A factor in the accident was the high wind.
- [NTSB CHI99LA119](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI99LA119.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Ankeny, IA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Mar 28, 1999 · N82164 · Substantial damage
  > The student pilot's failure to maintain directional control during landing.
- [NTSB LAX99LA032](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX99LA032.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Santa Barbara, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Nov 10, 1998 · N8258S · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's inadequate compensation for the existing crosswind condition and failure to maintain proper runway alignment during landing flare.
- [NTSB NYC98LA148](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC98LA148.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Whitefield, NH · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 20, 1998 · N8182A · Substantial damage
  > The instructor pilot's failure to maintain control of the aircraft during landing roll. Contributing factors were the instructor pilot's improper in-flight decision, tailwind and gusty conditions, and wet (standing water) runway conditions.
- [NTSB CHI96LA079](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI96LA079.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Zionsville, IN · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jan 13, 1996 · N80029 · Substantial damage
  > the pilot's failure to maintain directional control of the airplane on the ground. A factor relating to this accident is the snowbank.
- [NTSB MIA95LA235](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA95LA235.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Melbourne, FL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Sep 26, 1995 · N607FT · Substantial damage
  > The failure of the pilot to maintain directional control during landing. Contributing to the accident was the crosswind.
- [NTSB NYC95LA128](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC95LA128.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Bluffton, OH · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · May 31, 1995 · N8115L · Substantial damage
  > an improperly planned approach and touchdown, which resulted in an loss of directional control at touchdown, with the airplane departing the runway, and striking a ravine.
- [NTSB LAX94LA270](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX94LA270.md): Piper PA-28-161 · San Carlos, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 30, 1994 · N4359C · Substantial damage
  > the student pilot's attempt to exit the runway at an excessive taxi speed which resulted in his loss of control.
- [NTSB ATL94LA008](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL94LA008.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Lexington, NC · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Oct 23, 1993 · N9778C · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during a crosswind landing. A factor was the crosswind condition.
- [NTSB SEA93LA215](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA93LA215.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Tooele, UT · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Oct 1, 1993 · N21170 · Substantial damage
  > The pilot in command's failure to maintain directional control. A factor contributing to the accident was the fence.
- [NTSB CHI93LA097](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI93LA097.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Marshfield, WI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Feb 25, 1993 · N3044N · Substantial damage
  > The student pilot's failure to maintain aircraft directional control during the takeoff ground run.
- [NTSB CHI93LA059](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI93LA059.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Lake In The Hls, IL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Dec 26, 1992 · N4328D · Substantial damage
  > The student pilot's failure to maintain directional control.
- [NTSB NYC93LA014](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC93LA014.md): Piper PA28-161 · St. Clairsville, OH · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Oct 10, 1992 · N8333T · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's improper in-flight planning and decision to land on a short grass runway with a tail wind. A factor in this accident was the pilots failure to obtain and evaluate a weather briefing prior to the flight.
- [NTSB LAX92LA249](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX92LA249.md): Piper PA-28-161 · El Monte, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 16, 1992 · N9279Y · Substantial damage
  > The student pilot's failure to maintain directional control and improper use of the brakes.
- [NTSB ATL92LA087](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL92LA087.md): Piper PA28-161 · Rutherfordton, NC · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Apr 23, 1992 · N6336C · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during a landing roll which resulted in a collision with trees.
- [NTSB CHI92LA115](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI92LA115.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Lafayette, IN · Accident · Serious injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Mar 23, 1992 · N2959R · Substantial damage
  > The student pilot's failure to maintain directional control and his delaying the aborted landing.
- [NTSB MIA92LA043](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA92LA043.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Vero Beach, FL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Dec 8, 1991 · N9222J · Substantial damage
  > Failure of the pilot to maintain directional control during the landing roll. This resulted in the collision with a sign. Contributing to the accident was his lack of total experience.
- [NTSB CHI91LA252](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI91LA252.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Mount Pleasant, MI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Aug 7, 1991 · N4189Q · Substantial damage
  > Directional control was not maintained by the pilot. Factors related to the accident were a wet, grass runway and buildings adjacent the runway.
- [NTSB NYC91LA142](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC91LA142.md): Piper PA-28 · Vergennes, VT · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · May 21, 1991 · N9163Z · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's excessive taxi speed, resulted in an on ground loss of control.
- [NTSB MIA91LA105](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA91LA105.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Melbourne, FL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Mar 23, 1991 · N440FT · Substantial damage
  > The loss of control on the ground by the student pilot due to a lack of total experience and apprehension on his first solo flight.
- [NTSB CHI90LA194](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI90LA194.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Pulaski, WI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 12, 1990 · N82676 · Substantial damage
  > The pilot's failure to maintain positive control of the airplane while landing. Factors related to the accident were the pilot's lack of total flight experience, and inadequate compensation for crosswind conditions.
- [NTSB DEN90LA062](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN90LA062.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Nephi, UT · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Feb 22, 1990 · N81658 · Substantial damage
  > Failure of the pilot to maintain direction control and correct the resultant ground swerve. The snow bank was a related factor.
- [NTSB CHI90LA069](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI90LA069.md): Piper PA-28-161 · West Chicago, IL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Dec 10, 1989 · N4372S · Substantial damage
  > Failure of the solo student pilot to maintain directional control of the aircraft, which resulted in an inadvertent ground swerve. Factors related to the accident were: the crosswind, the student pilot's lack of total inexperience, and the runway lights.
- [NTSB MIA89IA249](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA89IA249.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Fort Pierce, FL · Incident · No injuries · Incident investigation · Final report · Sep 13, 1989 · N9207Q · Minor damage
  > The student's failure to maintain directional control of the airplane. Contributing to the accident was the student's lack of experience.
- [NTSB ATL89LA105](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL89LA105.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Tiffin, OH · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Mar 13, 1989 · N2122J · Substantial damage
  > The pilots improper recovery from a bounced landing which led to inadvertent porpoising and loss of directional control.
- [NTSB NYC88LA024](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC88LA024.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Erwinna, PA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Nov 1, 1987 · N4302T · Substantial damage
  > The pilot was landing the aircraft on runway 25 at vansant airport. At about 100 feet down the runway, the aircraft veered to the left, off of the runway and slid down an embankment and came to rest after colliding with a tree.

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## The whole list in SQL

Runs in DuckDB 1.2 or later on the release's Parquet files over HTTPS:

```sql
SELECT c."ntsbNumber", c."eventDate", c."eventType", c."eventCity", c."eventStateOrRegion", a.n_number, a."aircraftMake", a."aircraftModel", c."highestInjuryLevel", c."totalFatal", c."completionStatus", c.report_url
FROM 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_case_detail.parquet' c LEFT JOIN 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_aircrafts.parquet' a ON a.case_mkey = c."mKey" AND a.position = 1
WHERE c."mKey" IN (SELECT x.case_mkey FROM 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_aircrafts.parquet' x WHERE x.aircraft_model_code IN ('7102803', '7102834')
    AND EXISTS (SELECT 1 FROM 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_occurrences.parquet' o WHERE o.case_mkey = x.case_mkey AND o.aircrafts_position = x.position AND o."occurrenceNumber" = 1 AND o."occurrenceCode" = 260))
ORDER BY c."eventDate" DESC, c."ntsbNumber" DESC
```

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