# NTSB investigations: Piper PA-28-161, 1985

NTSB aviation accident and incident investigations since 1962: the probable cause, findings, aircraft, crew, weather and docket of each, linked to the FAA registry and the FAA’s own reports.

## Latest cases

- [NTSB MIA86LA050](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA86LA050.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Leesburg, FL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Dec 28, 1985 · N8408F · Substantial damage
  > The plt stated that while attempting to takeoff from a private airstrip his left main wheel hit a barbed wire fence causing the left wing to strike the ground & separate from the acft.
- [NTSB CHI86FA033](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI86FA033.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Duluth, MN · Accident · 3 fatal · Field investigation · Final report · Nov 28, 1985 · N8082B · Destroyed
  > The pilot departed crystal lake for a flight to visit relatives for thanksgiving. He did not obtain a preflight weather briefing nor did he contact any ground facility during the flight. He was qualified to fly in VFR conditions only. The aircraft impacted…
- [NTSB MKC86LA019](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC86LA019.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Weeping Water, NE · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Oct 25, 1985 · N47734 · Substantial damage
  > The pilot stated that he was going too fast when he touched down on the short runway and should have made a go around. The airplane went off the end of the runway, went down a slope and impacted a piloe of rocks.
- [NTSB FTW86LA021](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW86LA021.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Amite, LA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Oct 21, 1985 · N47558 · Substantial damage
  > The plt reported a loss of brake effectiveness while landing on a dew-covered sod strip. Unable to stop, the acft slid through a fence, damaging the wings.
- [NTSB FTW86LA012](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW86LA012.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Killeen, TX · Accident · Serious injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Oct 14, 1985 · N84691 · Substantial damage
  > The pilot stopped enroute to refuel. Fuel service at the airport and already closed for the night so the pilot drained about 10 gallons of fuel into his airplane from a parked Cessna airplane and departed for his destination. However, this amount of fuel was…
- [NTSB MIA85LA244](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA85LA244.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Everglades City, FL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Sep 4, 1985 · N8015X · Substantial damage
  > The plt stated that while returning to venice from marathon,the acft started to lose power. He switched tanks but the problem continued. He notified fort myers apch he was having problems and when the power deteriorated to 1600 RPM, he elected to ditch the…
- [NTSB NYC85LA212](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC85LA212.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Doylestown, PA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Aug 6, 1985 · N2960B · Substantial damage
  > According to the plt, on touchdown the acft braking was ineffective due to morning dew on the grass rwy. The acft slid off the end of the rwy and collided with bushes.
- [NTSB NYC85LA202](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC85LA202.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Wildwood, NJ · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Aug 5, 1985 · N21521 · Substantial damage
  > N21521 taxied onto runway 10 at the intersection of runway 14 after observing another aircraft taxi and take off from that point. N21521 did not attain sufficient airspeed for takeoff prior to running out of available runway. The pilot did not apply hard…
- [NTSB DEN85LA197](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85LA197.md): Piper PA-28 · Bountiful, UT · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 23, 1985 · N2203D · Substantial damage
  > The student plt departed the arpt to practice touch-&-go landings. On the 5th apch, the acft was observed to be low. The plt failed to add pwr and the acft contacted an arpt boundary fence.
- [NTSB CHI85LA294](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI85LA294.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Schaumburg, IL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 17, 1985 · N4349K · Substantial damage
  > The acft contacted a ditch during a forced landing following a loss of pwr shortly after takeoff. The plt reported that at an alt of aprx 200 ft AGL, during the takeoff climb, a total loss of pwr occurred. A left turn was made in an attemptto avoid buildings…
- [NTSB DEN85FA186](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85FA186.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Aspen, CO · Accident · 1 fatal · Field investigation · Final report · Jul 12, 1985 · N2443Y · Destroyed
  > CFI and student departed Aspen, Colorado, on a dual x-country flt. The density altitude at the time of departure was calculated to be 9954 feet. The CFI directed student to fly up a canyon in an area of rising terrain. The CFI took control of acft and was…
- [NTSB ATL85FA165](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL85FA165.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Milledgeville, GA · Accident · Serious injuries · Field investigation · Final report · May 18, 1985 · N8289H · Substantial damage
  > Acft left home airport at 0400. Flt plan left with FBO indicated 6 hours to destination, no en route stops, and 4+30 hours fuel on board. Fuel consumption calculated, 4+36 hours endurance available. Acft flew 4+47 hours. The pilot told approach control acft…
- [NTSB LAX85FA252](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX85FA252.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Ocotillo Wells, CA · Accident · 1 fatal · Field investigation · Final report · May 10, 1985 · N81018 · Destroyed
  > According to witnesses on a dune buggy & a honda trx 200, the acft was flying at low alt in strong winds when it seemed to encounter turbulence & go out of control. Some of the witnesses said it temporarily leveled at about 200 ft AGL. All agreed that it was…
- [NTSB FTW85LA175](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW85LA175.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Carney, OK · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Apr 6, 1985 · N8052T · Substantial damage
  > Plt attempted to abort takeoff from grass strip mowed in pasture. Plt lost control and acft received substantial damage when it ran off rwy and collided with dirt bank rwy estimated to be between 1,000 ft to 1200 ft long.
- [NTSB LAX85FXQ01](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX85FXQ01.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Tahoe Paradise, CA · Accident · Serious injuries · Final report · Apr 5, 1985 · N80530 · Substantial damage
  > The acft contacted trees and the terrain during an attempted climb in a narrow canyon. The plt stated he was attempting to climb in order to clear rising terrain in the canyon when a downdraft was encountered. He stated, he cleared the top of the ridge at…
- [NTSB CHI85FEE01](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI85FEE01.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Schaumburg, IL · Accident · Minor injuries · Final report · Apr 5, 1985 · N8243S · Destroyed
  > The student plt & instructor (CFI) were practicing touch-&-go landings. The CFI reported that after about 1 hr of flt, the eng lost power after a touch-&-go as the acft was climbing thru about 200 to 300 ft AGL. A town & some bldgs were ahead, so the CFI made…
- [NTSB NYC85LA069](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC85LA069.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Beaver Falls, PA · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Feb 21, 1985 · N8318L · Substantial damage
  > The student plt was on a supervised solo flt. While landing with an 8 kt rgt x-wind, the acft veered left, went off the rwy & hit a 1 ft deep snowbank, then nosed over. No pre-impact part failure or malfunction was found.
- [NTSB CHI85LA088](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI85LA088.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Troy, MI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jan 13, 1985 · N8444D · Substantial damage
  > The acft collided with a sign during a forced lndg after a loss of power that occurd during initial climb at an alt of 400 ft AGL. The plt stated that the eng began to run rough and with the application of carb heat the eng quit. A post accident eng run-up…
- [NTSB LAX85LA103](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX85LA103.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Beaumont, CA · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jan 9, 1985 · N29493 · Substantial damage
  > The acft was on a personal VFR flt to santa barbara, CA, on a dark ovcst night. Marginal VFR conditions with lgt rain prevailed. Gnd witnesses rptd the acft was following the hwy at about 200 ft AGL prior to the accident. The plt rptd he inadvertently began…
- [NTSB MKC85LA044](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC85LA044.md): Piper PA-28-161 · Olathe, KS · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jan 6, 1985 · N84499 · Substantial damage
  > Pilot said acft swerved to right during landing roll. Acft ran off right side of rwy into snow covered area resulting indamage to wing & gear. No evidence of aircraft malfunction was found after the accident.

## The whole list in SQL

Runs in DuckDB 1.2 or later on the release's Parquet files over HTTPS:

```sql
SELECT c."ntsbNumber", c."eventDate", c."eventType", c."eventCity", c."eventStateOrRegion", a.n_number, a."aircraftMake", a."aircraftModel", c."highestInjuryLevel", c."totalFatal", c."completionStatus", c.report_url
FROM 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_case_detail.parquet' c LEFT JOIN 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_aircrafts.parquet' a ON a.case_mkey = c."mKey" AND a.position = 1
WHERE year(c."eventDate") = 1985
  AND c."mKey" IN (SELECT x.case_mkey FROM 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_aircrafts.parquet' x WHERE x.aircraft_model_code IN ('7102803', '7102834'))
ORDER BY c."eventDate" DESC, c."ntsbNumber" DESC
```

This list as a web page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb?model=7102803&year=1985

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