# NTSB investigations: Piper PA-28-181, 1985 NTSB aviation accident and incident investigations since 1962: the probable cause, findings, aircraft, crew, weather and docket of each, linked to the FAA registry and the FAA’s own reports. ## Latest cases - [NTSB CHI86LA049](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI86LA049.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Dodgeville, WI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Dec 15, 1985 · N8458H · Substantial damage > After a x-country flt and during the landing roll the acft started to drift left on the snow covered rwy. The left main gear then encountered deeper snow causing the acft to swing to the left and run into a six-ft snowbank. - [NTSB MIA86LA039](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA86LA039.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Cedar Key, FL · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Dec 1, 1985 · N136AV · Substantial damage > The plt was attempting a night landing on his first night x-country & had not landed at this aprt prior to this time. He stated that during the flare, he was caught by a x-wind & blown into the trees adjacent to the rwy. Surface winds at the time of the… - [NTSB LAX86LA031](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX86LA031.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Angwin, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Nov 3, 1985 · N21491 · 2 aircraft · Minor damage > Near the completion of a dual instructional flt with a pre-solo student, the CFI followed the procedures recommended in the aim 7 & announced his Cessna acft's position over the CTAF stating his intentions & identifying his location on the 45 deg. Entry &… - [NTSB LAX86FA025](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX86FA025.md): Cessna 182P · Sacramento, CA · Accident · No injuries · Field investigation · Final report · Oct 25, 1985 · N7371S · 2 aircraft · Substantial damage > As the Cessna 182P pilot flew through a control zone without establishing communications at an altitude of 3,500 ft, a Piper PA28 was beginning its approach for landing. The Piper's pilot was practicing instrument flight using a hood and a safety pilot. The… - [NTSB LAX86LA020](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX86LA020.md): Piper PA28-181 · Palo Alto, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Oct 21, 1985 · N2491Y · Substantial damage > The plt said that after landing and turning onto the parallel taxiway, the engine quit. During an attempted re-start, fire was noticed coming from the engine compartment. The plt and his passenger evacuated the acft, and arpt personnel put out the fire. The… - [NTSB ATL85FLQ01](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL85FLQ01.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Bowling Green, KY · Accident · Minor injuries · Final report · Sep 27, 1985 · N8450K · Substantial damage > The acft was substantially damaged during a forced landing in a corn field following a loss of pwr 5 miles from the destination arpt. The plt reported to Bowling Green fss that he was 'out of gas' at an alt of 3000 ft. post accident examination disclosed a… - [NTSB DEN85LA243](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85LA243.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Holyoke, CO · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Sep 17, 1985 · N3562G · Substantial damage > The plt landed her a/c in a right xwind and was unable to prevent the a/c from veering off the r/w. the a/c struck a wind t and came to rest in a corn field. The plt was not injured. - [NTSB MKC85FA217](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC85FA217.md): Piper PA-28-181 · What Cheer, IA · Accident · Serious injuries · Field investigation · Final report · Sep 16, 1985 · N8262U · Substantial damage > The acft was observed flying through the top of a tree, then through a four strand high voltage pwr line. Final impact was relatively flat in a soy-bean field. The plt later stated that he had become disoriented in flt and hallucinated that he was in a Piper… - [NTSB MKC85LA208](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC85LA208.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Oxford, IA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Sep 7, 1985 · N9557K · Substantial damage > The eng quit abruptly while the acft was cruising at 3,500 feet. The acft collided with standing corn during the night forced landing. After the acdt the fuel selector was found on the lt fuel tank, the lt tank was empty and the rt fuel tank was full. The plt… - [NTSB DEN85LA231](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85LA231.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Englewood, CO · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Aug 31, 1985 · N5418F · Substantial damage > The pilot stated after the accident that he had approximately 1/2 full tanks of fuel when he departed the airport on a local night flight. He stated that he flew burning fuel from the left fuel tank. The pilot was returning to the airport after a flight of… - [NTSB FTW85LA325](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW85LA325.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Llano, TX · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Aug 17, 1985 · N2217G · Substantial damage > The plt stated he entered the traffic pattern at 2000 ft for a left downwind to rwy 17. He then reduced pwr to 1700 RPM and placed the mixture control into the full rich position. He assured that carburetor heat was off and then started his descent. The eng… - [NTSB ATL85LA249](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL85LA249.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Yanceyville, NC · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Aug 17, 1985 · N47994 · Substantial damage > The non instrument rated private pilot flew into know adverse wx conditions. While receiving vectors to the nearest airport, the eng lost power dur to fuel exhaustion and an emergency landing was made in a field near a private residence. - [NTSB CHI85FA325](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI85FA325.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Eureka, WI · Accident · No injuries · Field investigation · Final report · Jul 31, 1985 · N8503E · Substantial damage > Prior to takeoff the pilot calculated that with 48 gallons of fuel he could make the four hour flight to oshkosh with one hour of fuel to spare. Upon arriving at a point 25 mi sw of oshkosh he received a request to descend 1200 ft, a request to climb 1200 ft… - [NTSB MKC85LA170](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC85LA170.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Leon, IA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 27, 1985 · N8089C · Substantial damage > The plt reported that when he was on final apch to land, the acft encountered a downdraft & its rate of descent increased. He applied power to correct the situation, but the left main gear hit a fence post aprx 10 ft short of the rwy & failed. Subsequently,… - [NTSB LAX85FA322](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX85FA322.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Phelen, CA · Accident · 3 fatal · Field investigation · Final report · Jul 19, 1985 · N2640Q · Destroyed > After receiving a preflight weather briefing 1 hour and 20 minutes before takeoff, that cautioned of lowering ceilings and thunderstorms along his proposed flt route, the plt took off under VFR. A flt plan was not filed. As the acft climbed to its cruise alt… - [NTSB DEN85LA187](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85LA187.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Kiowa, CO · Accident · Serious injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 13, 1985 · N3030Z · Substantial damage > The acft collided with a telephone wire and crashed. The plt admitted he had been flying over a boy scout ranch at 7500 ft MSL (about 500 ft AGL). He could not recall any other details. One witness said he saw the acft cross in front of his pickup truck at… - [NTSB CHI85LA287](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI85LA287.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Stoughton, WI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 13, 1985 · N47677 · Substantial damage > Upon landing following a normal 70 knot final approach the aircraft initially touched down one-third of the way down the 2500 ft grass runway. A bounce carried the aircraft to a point halfway down the runway where the aircraft landed in a full stall. The… - [NTSB FTW85LA278](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW85LA278.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Austin, TX · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 9, 1985 · N8203D · Substantial damage > The eng failed at about 2000 ft MSL while the acft was climbing to cruise flt. The plt attempted to turn back to the arpt but realized it was too FAR away. The plt then made a forced landing in a grass area adjacent to a large hwy at about a 45 deg angle to… - [NTSB CHI85LA257](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI85LA257.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Oxford, OH · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 28, 1985 · N9459K · Substantial damage > While on a round-robin flight at night the pilot experienced an alternator failure. As he was returning to his point of origin the battery power depleted leaving him with no radios or landing light and only a flashlight for cockpit lighting. He decided to… - [NTSB CHI85LA255](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI85LA255.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Kankakee, IL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 26, 1985 · N6897C · Substantial damage > The aircraft while clearing the runway, shot wide of the taxiway taxiing onto the grass and into a culvert which was difficult to see resulting in substantial damage to the aircraft. - [NTSB LAX85LA279](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX85LA279.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Apple Valley, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 17, 1985 · N4382N · Substantial damage > Eng failed due to fuel exhaution while the acft was on final apch to rwy 18 at Apple Valley. A forced landing on rough terrain short of the rwy resulted in substantial damage to the acft. - [NTSB MKC85LA129](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC85LA129.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Ogallala, NE · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 13, 1985 · N83815 · Substantial damage > Plt reports that the eng quit due to fuel exhaustion. The power loss occurred 2 hrs. After t/o, 3 mi from dest. Plt had to maneuver around obstacle in field during landing and landed hard. - [NTSB FTW85LA255](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW85LA255.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Tahlequah, OK · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 11, 1985 · N1601S · Substantial damage > The plt stated the acft was in flt slightly more than three hrs after it was refueled, before fuel exhaustion occurred. The acft reportedly was leaned during the flt. Post accident examination revealed no evidence of any fuel system leaks. Reason for the fuel… - [NTSB MKC85LA122](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC85LA122.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Des Moines, IA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 7, 1985 · N3502M · Substantial damage > During a full stop landing the plt applied brakes to arrest the landing roll and upon application of the brakes, the acft veered slowly to the left without slowing down. The check plt applied his brakes to assist the plt, but without any effect. The acft… - [NTSB DEN85LA142](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85LA142.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Bluff, UT · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · May 28, 1985 · N3561G · Destroyed > The acft was destroyed by fire which began during an engine start. The plt stated that he used porper hot engine start procedures. He said the throttle was not pumped. The plt observed that the fuel pressure went to zero during the second start attempt. Smoke… - [NTSB SEA85LA112](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA85LA112.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Tacoma, WA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · May 16, 1985 · N8300Z · Substantial damage > The engine ceased operative while on right base for rwy 35 due to fuel exhaustion. The plt ran the left tank dry. The right tank contained full fuel. The plt had been used to flying Cessna's. - [NTSB LAX85LA256](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX85LA256.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Pacoima, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · May 11, 1985 · N4378N · Substantial damage > Plt attempted a no-flap landing during which excessive airspeed was used. The acft drifted off the right side of the rwy during the flare and subsequently touched down in soft terrain. While braking directional control was lost and the acft collided with a… - [NTSB NYC85LA124](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC85LA124.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Stow, MA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · May 7, 1985 · N82054 · Substantial damage > Piper PA28-181N82054 landed hard on runway 3 at minute man airport, Stow, mass. The student was performing touch and go landings, on one landing, the pilot stated that the aircraft bounced and then veered to the left. Rudder was applied but there was no… - [NTSB DEN85LA107](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85LA107.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Kemmerer, WY · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Apr 2, 1985 · N1085H · Substantial damage > On April 2, 1985, an inexperienced pvt plt attempted to land on a runway with a 24KT crosswind at Kemmerer, WY. The favorable runway was closed due to snow accumulations. On the third attempt the acft landed hard and bounced into the air. The plt attempted to… - [NTSB DEN85FA102](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85FA102.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Vail, CO · Accident · 2 fatal · Field investigation · Final report · Mar 22, 1985 · N8359B · Destroyed > The plt did not obtain a wx briefing, file a flight plan or refuel the acft prior to departing for eagle Colorado. The acft departed at 1800 under VFR cond. The plt reported over minturn co at 2019. Witnesses at Vail co stated that the wx cond were poor from… - [NTSB FTW85LA133](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW85LA133.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Bartlesville, OK · Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Mar 3, 1985 · N7068C · Destroyed > After one uneventful full-stop landing the plt re-entered the pattern for a second landing. The plt truned to final at about 500 ft AGL and 65-70 KTS with the rwy lights in sight. Shortly thereafter, according to the plt, the landing light illuminated two… - [NTSB FTW85LA102](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW85LA102.md): Piper PA-28-181 · League City, TX · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jan 27, 1985 · N82048 · Substantial damage > The acft collided with a ditch about 75 yards short of rwy 13 during a practice night forced landing. The pvt plt, an employee of the FBO operator, had taken the acft without permission and had been flying for approx 1.7 hrs when the accident occurred. The 18… - [NTSB DEN85LA056](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85LA056.md): Piper PA-28-181 · Yoder, CO · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jan 3, 1985 · N2112K · Substantial damage > Engine quit during cruise flight. Pilot made forced landing on dirt road during which the acft veered off the road and collided with a fence post. Fire department officials reported no evidence of fuel either in the fuel tanks or around the acft. ## The whole list in SQL Runs in DuckDB 1.2 or later on the release's Parquet files over HTTPS: ```sql SELECT c."ntsbNumber", c."eventDate", c."eventType", c."eventCity", c."eventStateOrRegion", a.n_number, a."aircraftMake", a."aircraftModel", c."highestInjuryLevel", c."totalFatal", c."completionStatus", c.report_url FROM 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_case_detail.parquet' c LEFT JOIN 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_aircrafts.parquet' a ON a.case_mkey = c."mKey" AND a.position = 1 WHERE year(c."eventDate") = 1985 AND c."mKey" IN (SELECT x.case_mkey FROM 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_aircrafts.parquet' x WHERE x.aircraft_model_code IN ('7102807', '7102832')) ORDER BY c."eventDate" DESC, c."ntsbNumber" DESC ``` This list as a web page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb?model=7102807&year=1985 --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). 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