# NTSB investigations: Piper PA-38-112: Hard landing NTSB aviation accident and incident investigations since 1962: the probable cause, findings, aircraft, crew, weather and docket of each, linked to the FAA registry and the FAA’s own reports. ## Latest cases - [NTSB LAX01LA217](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX01LA217.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Auburn, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 22, 2001 · N2572N · Substantial damage > Failure of the student pilot to maintain a proper airspeed during landing, which lead to a hard landing and porpoise down the runway leading to the collapse of the nose landing gear. - [NTSB FTW01LA135](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW01LA135.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Amarillo, TX · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 2, 2001 · N2495C · Substantial damage > the pilot's inadequate compensation for the crosswind, which resulted in a hard landing. A contributing factor was the crosswind. - [NTSB IAD99LA040](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/IAD99LA040.md): Piper PA-38 · Manassas, VA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Apr 30, 1999 · N2338D · Substantial damage > The student pilot's failure to maintain the proper rate of descend on final approach followed by an improper flare which resulted on a hard landing. - [NTSB IAD97LA068](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/IAD97LA068.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Wellsville, NY · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Apr 20, 1997 · N2477K · Substantial damage > the student pilot's improper flare, improper recovery from a bounced landing, and loss of directional control, during the landing. - [NTSB ATL97LA058](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL97LA058.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Southern Pines, NC · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Mar 22, 1997 · N9221T · Substantial damage > the student pilot's improper landing flare and the flight instructor's inadequate supervision of the training flight, which led to a hard landing. - [NTSB CHI96LA153](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI96LA153.md): Piper PA-38 · Layfayette, IN · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · May 3, 1996 · N2364N · Substantial damage > the pilot's improper flare and improper recovery from a bounced landing. - [NTSB FTW96LA185](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW96LA185.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Alice, TX · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Apr 23, 1996 · N2537D · Substantial damage > the student pilot's improper landing flare and improper bounced landing recovery. - [NTSB LAX95LA143](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX95LA143.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Torrance, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Mar 24, 1995 · N23680 · Substantial damage > the pilot's improper compensation for the existing wind conditions. - [NTSB CHI93LA363](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI93LA363.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Griffith, IN · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Sep 16, 1993 · N2353K · Substantial damage > the improper recovery from a bounced landing by the pilot-in- command. - [NTSB SEA93LA077](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA93LA077.md): Piper PA-38 · Burley, ID · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Mar 12, 1993 · N2438L · Substantial damage > Landing on the wrong runway and an improper touchdown. Lack of total experience in type of operation was a factor. - [NTSB ANC92LA026](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC92LA026.md): Piper PA-38 · Talkeetna, AK · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Dec 8, 1991 · N9765T · Substantial damage > The pilot's improper flare following an aborted takeoff, which resulted in a hard landing and the subsequent loss of control of the airplane. Contributing to the accident was the pilot's lack of total experience in the type of operation. - [NTSB LAX89LA301](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX89LA301.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Torrance, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Sep 4, 1989 · N25649 · Substantial damage > The student pilot's improper flare and improper recovery from a bounced landing, which resulted in an inadvertent porpoise. A factor related to the accident was: the lack of training in recovery from bounced landings from her instructor pilot (CFI). - [NTSB MKC89LA171](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC89LA171.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Liberty, MO · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 29, 1989 · N4278E · Substantial damage > Control interference by the dual student as the instructor tried to recover from the student's bounced landing, and failure to maintain proper runway alignment. Contributing factors were: improper flare by the student, the crosswind, the student's… - [NTSB CHI89LA164](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI89LA164.md): Piper PA38-112 · Milwaukee, WI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 24, 1989 · N9103A · Substantial damage > Student pilot's misjudged aircraft handling during the landing flare/touchdown, and the cfi's inadequate supervision of the operation. These resulted in an abrupt touchdown, a subsequent loss of directional control, and the aircraft's collision with the VASI… - [NTSB NYC88LA230](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC88LA230.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Manville, NJ · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Aug 27, 1988 · N2445N · Destroyed > After completing six landings with an instructor the student plt was released by the instructor for his first solo flt to be conducted as a series of closed pattern touch-and-go landings. On his first solo landing the student plt landed nose wheel first with… - [NTSB CHI88LA182](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI88LA182.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Flint, MI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 31, 1988 · N2539G · Substantial damage > While on a solo instructional flight for the purpose of practicing takeoffs and landings, the student pilot executed a hard landing. The aircraft bounced; when it touched down again, the nose gear collapsed and the aircraft skidded to a stop on the runway. - [NTSB ATL88LA192](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL88LA192.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Mccormick, SC · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 10, 1988 · N2609G · Substantial damage > The student pilot was on her second solo cross country flight. She had deptd donaldson center near greenville, SC and had flown to athens, ga where she had completed a touch and go landing. She then proceeded to Mccormick, SC and flew over the airport to… - [NTSB CHI88LA109](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI88LA109.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Indianapolis, IN · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · May 8, 1988 · N43DR · Substantial damage - [NTSB ATL88LA013](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL88LA013.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Hampton, GA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Oct 17, 1987 · N91461 · Substantial damage > The CFI rptd that the student flared the airplane about 50 ft abv the rwy and stalled it; the airplane dropped to the rwy and bounced. He assumed control of the airplane from the student and attempted to prevent a crosswind from blowing the airplane to the… - [NTSB ATL87LA264](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL87LA264.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Winston Salem, NC · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Sep 27, 1987 · N2488C · Substantial damage > The student pilot was performing touch and go landings as part of his supervised solo training. The aircraft landed hard and bounced twice before coming to rest with a collapsed nose gear. Examination of the airframe disclosed extensive crushing damage to the… - [NTSB CHI87LA056](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI87LA056.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Madison, WI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Dec 26, 1986 · N4325E · Substantial damage > While practicing touch & go landings, the student plt reports, the acft 'suddenly dropped' resulting in a hard landing. The acft then porpoised separating the nose gear and skidding to a stop off the rwy. - [NTSB NYC87LA019](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC87LA019.md): Piper PA-38 · Leroy, NY · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Oct 15, 1986 · N60CS · Substantial damage > Flight instructor simulating an emergency landing, landed on main landing gears and tail. Aircraft veered to the right off the runway and collided with bushes. - [NTSB LAX86LA285](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX86LA285.md): Piper PA-38 · Lincoln, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 4, 1986 · N91360 · Substantial damage > The student pilot indicated that this was his first solo flight. He had accumulated a total of 6.8 hours of flight time prior to this flight and he had flown earlier in the day with his flight instructor. After two landings with the flight instructor, the… - [NTSB NYC86LA166](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC86LA166.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Lincoln, RI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jul 1, 1986 · N2428P · Substantial damage > The plt intended to practice a short field landing & extended full flaps. Initially, his apch was higher & faster than normal. However, before landing, a high sink rate developed. The acft touched down hard, the right wing dropped & the acft started to turn… - [NTSB SEA85LA133](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA85LA133.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Las Vegas, NV · Accident · Serious injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 10, 1985 · N6456A · Destroyed > During a local instructional flight a bounced landing was made. The acft bounced nose high to about 20 ft AGL. The acft then veered left of the rwy after full power had been added and flaps reduced from 40 degrees to 25 degrees for an attempted go-around at… - [NTSB NYC85LA071](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC85LA071.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Beaver Falls, PA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Feb 21, 1985 · N2317N · Substantial damage > The instructor (CFI) & student plt were practicing touch-&-go landings. During an apch, the student allowed the airspeed to get slow. After correcting the situation, he allowed the speed to get slow again & flared high. The acft began to drop & a go-around… - [NTSB MIA85LA049](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA85LA049.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Stuart, FL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Nov 30, 1984 · N25705 · Substantial damage > Student plt had successfully completed two touch and go landings. On the third landing the acft touched down hard in a three point attitude. A go-around was accomplished and on the last landing, the nose gear collapsed. - [NTSB MKC85LA020](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC85LA020.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Burlington, IA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Nov 12, 1984 · N2454B · Substantial damage > According to the pilot the descent into the traffic pattern was late and the base turn performed early leaving the acft high on final. As a result, an excessive rate of descent developed on short final. The high descent rate and diminishing daylight led the… - [NTSB ATL85LA015](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL85LA015.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Charlotte, NC · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Oct 20, 1984 · N2388V · Substantial damage > During attempted go-around from a bounced landing, the plt allowed the acft to drift off center line and into trees paralling the runway. Directional control was compromised by low flying speed. - [NTSB NYC84LA185](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC84LA185.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Williamsport, PA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · May 25, 1984 · N25CK · Substantial damage > The aircraft was engaged in student flight training; the student was performing touch and go landing in shifting, gusty wind conditions. A gust hit the aircraft on short final and the student was unable to recover control before a hard landing and bounce… - [NTSB MKC84LA121](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC84LA121.md): Piper PA-38 · St. Joseph, MO · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Apr 7, 1984 · N25731 · Substantial damage > The acft was landed in a gusty crosswind. The acft ballooned and landed hard which collapsed the nose gear. - [NTSB LAX83LA292](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX83LA292.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Morgan Hill, CA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jun 18, 1983 · N2315V · Substantial damage > The acft made a hard landing during a student training flt. The student pilot had made one landing and one go-around. He attempted another landing but landed hard without enough of a flare. The nose gear bent, the prop curled and the engine mounts were… - [NTSB ATL83LA162](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL83LA162.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Lynchburg, VA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · May 10, 1983 · N25693 · Substantial damage > The acft landed hard and bounced several times before collapsing the landing gear. The student pilot was on her first solo flight after 31 hours of dual instruction in the PA-38 acft. The student reported the accident was student induced and that there were… - [NTSB SEA83LA073](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA83LA073.md): Piper PA-32-112 · Vancouver, WA · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Mar 31, 1983 · N91336 · Substantial damage > According to the instructor (CFI), the student was approaching the rwy at 60 KTS with the power reduced when he chopped the power & flared at aprx 10 to 15 ft AGL. The right wing dropped & the acft landed hard before the CFI corrected the situation. The right… - [NTSB CHI83LA072](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI83LA072.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Detroit, MI · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Jan 3, 1983 · N25920 · Substantial damage > The plt stated that as she was crossing the threshold she noticed that the acft had been blown over too FAR to the rightof the rwy. After correcting for this, she leveled off too high & the acft nosed down onto the rwy. - [NTSB MIA83LA005](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA83LA005.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Brooksville, FL · Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report · Oct 5, 1982 · N2447F · Substantial damage > The student pilot was practicing touch-and-go landings. According to him, the nose gear collapsed as he lowered the nose on his third landing. The propeller struck the runway surface and the plane veered to the left. After departing the left side of the… - [NTSB MIA82DA142](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA82DA142.md): Piper PA-38-112 · West Palm Beach, FL · Accident · No injuries · Final report · Jun 27, 1982 · N26056 · Substantial damage > While landing, the aircraft was observed to bounce several times. It then veered to the right, went into an area of grass, and nosed over. No malfunctions or failures were reported by either the pilot or the owner. - [NTSB MKC82DA060](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC82DA060.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Dubuque, IA · Accident · No injuries · Final report · Apr 24, 1982 · N2586B · Substantial damage > The student pilot was on a solo cross-country flight. After arriving at Dubuque, he landed on runway 18. The student stated that the wind was from 230 degrees at 16, gusting 23 knots. He reported that during the landing, the plane was lifted off two times by… - [NTSB LAX82DA145](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX82DA145.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Santa Monica, CA · Accident · No injuries · Final report · Apr 10, 1982 · N2588D · Substantial damage > During landing, the student pilot allowed the aircraft to bounce. After about the third bounce, the nose gear buckled and the aircraft skidded off the runway. - [NTSB ANC82DA024](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC82DA024.md): Piper PA-38-112 · Anchorage, AK · Accident · No injuries · Final report · Mar 5, 1982 · N25759 · Substantial damage > Student pilot rounded out too high,aircraft bounced and became airborne. The student did not apply power and the CFI added power for a go-around. However he stated he waited too long before applying power and the right wing stalled. The aircraft veered right… ## The whole list in SQL Runs in DuckDB 1.2 or later on the release's Parquet files over HTTPS: ```sql SELECT c."ntsbNumber", c."eventDate", c."eventType", c."eventCity", c."eventStateOrRegion", a.n_number, a."aircraftMake", a."aircraftModel", c."highestInjuryLevel", c."totalFatal", c."completionStatus", c.report_url FROM 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_case_detail.parquet' c LEFT JOIN 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_aircrafts.parquet' a ON a.case_mkey = c."mKey" AND a.position = 1 WHERE c."mKey" IN (SELECT x.case_mkey FROM 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_aircrafts.parquet' x WHERE x.aircraft_model_code IN ('7103812') AND EXISTS (SELECT 1 FROM 'https://openairdocs.org/data/latest/ntsb_occurrences.parquet' o WHERE o.case_mkey = x.case_mkey AND o.aircrafts_position = x.position AND o."occurrenceNumber" = 1 AND o."occurrenceCode" = 200)) ORDER BY c."eventDate" DESC, c."ntsbNumber" DESC ``` This list as a web page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb?model=7103812&occurrence=200 --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). 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