# NTSB ANC08CA062: Cessna 185, N125KT, Talkeetna, AK, May 5, 2008

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report
- Date: May 5, 2008, 14:10 local (22:10 UTC)
- Place: Talkeetna, AK
- Coordinates: 62.320556, -150.093612
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=62.3206&lon=-150.0936&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Defining event: [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report July 30, 2008
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB office: Alaska Regional Office
- Parties: Anchorage FSDO-03
- NTSB case key (mKey): 67952
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=ANC08CA062
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/67952/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC08CA062

## Probable cause

The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during the landing roll. Contributing to the accident was an inadvertent ground-loop.

## Findings

NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause.

- [Performance/control parameters: directional control](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Not attained/maintained (probable cause); cases with it: [Cessna A185F, 56 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020/cases.md?model=2072821), [All aircraft, 3,958 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020/cases.md)
- [Action: lack of action](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041030): Personnel issues › Action/decision · Pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Cessna A185F, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041030/cases.md?model=2072821), [All aircraft, 792 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041030/cases.md)

## Sequence of events

The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened.

- [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) (defining event); cases with it: [Cessna A185F, 75 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md?model=2072821), [All aircraft, 4,585 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md)
- [Landing-landing roll: Collision with terr/obj (non-CFIT) ](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470); cases with it: [Cessna A185F, 36 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md?model=2072821), [All aircraft, 10,189 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md)

## Analysis

The airline transport certificated pilot was doing touch and go landings. On the fourth landing the airplane veered sharply to the right and ground-looped, striking the left wing on the runway. The airplane received substantial damage to the left wing and left aileron. The pilot indicated that there was no preaccident mechanical problems with the airplane.

## Factual narrative

The airline transport certificated pilot was doing touch and go landings. On the fourth landing the airplane veered sharply to the right and ground-looped, striking the left wing on the runway. The airplane received substantial damage to the left wing and left aileron. The pilot indicated that there was no preaccident mechanical problems with the airplane.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N125KT](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N125KT), registered now, S/N 18503494, built 1977 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Cessna 185
- Registry model: [Cessna A185F](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-a185f) (registry code 2072821) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental IO-520 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-io-520-series) (registry code 17032, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 18503494
- Airframe hours: 11658
- Engines: Continental IO-520-F-C-D 300 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Rust Flying Service, doing business as K2 Aviation
- Registered owner: Rust Air Inc.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, February 1, 2008
- Departed: PATK, Talkeetna, AK
- Flight plan: VFR
- Airport: PATK, Talkeetna, runway 18, 3,500 × 75 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 59; injuries: none; commercial, airline transport; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: helicopter, airplane; medical: class 2, with waivers/limitations; last flight review June 1, 2007; seat: left; flight hours: 7,500 total, 850 in this make and model, 1 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 30 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 300° at 6 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 52 °F, dew point 27 °F
- Altimeter: 29.76 inHg
- Observed at: PATK

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20080505834679A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080505834679A), May 5, 2008: Cessna A185F, Talkeetna, AK, Substantial damage. (-23) Mr. [privacy data omitted] Went out to fly the Cessna 185 practice touch and go's after three (3) successful landings he wanted to do one more. On this…

## Other investigations on N125KT (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ANC11CA032](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC11CA032), May 17, 2011: Cessna A185F (N125KT), Talkeetna, AK, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during landing.
- [NTSB ANC92LA093](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC92LA093), Jun 18, 1992: Cessna 185F (N125KT), Talkeetna, AK, substantial damage. Probable cause: FAILURE TO MAINTAIN DIRECTIONAL CONTROL. FACTORS INCLUDE TAILWHEEL VIBRATION/SHIMMY, AND AN INADVERTENT GROUND LOOP.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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