# NTSB ANC78DAH11: Piper PA-12, N3380M, Talkeetna, AK, September 4, 1978

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: September 4, 1978
- Place: Talkeetna, AK · TALKEETNA, AK
- Location: 62.3239° N, 150.1094° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Talkeetna, AK, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=62.3239&lon=-150.1094&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Takeoff](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/300) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 3 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report November 27, 1978
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 139838
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=ANC78DAH11
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC78DAH11

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-3046   78/9/4  NR.TALKEETNA,AK       PIPER PA-12         CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             COMMERCIAL, AGE 38, 832
        TIME - 1945                    N3380M              PX-  0  0  2  PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP  TOTAL HOURS, 464 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            INSTRUMENT RATED.
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION         LAST ENROUTE STOP
          TALKEETNA,AK                RETURN                      TALKEETNA,AK
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLIDED WITH: DITCHES                                   TAKEOFF: RUN
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - SELECTED UNSUITABLE TERRAIN
        FACTOR(S)
           TERRAIN - ROUGH/UNEVEN
        REMARKS- AC DEPARTING FROM GRAVEL BAR.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N3380M](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N3380M), registered now, S/N 12-2227, built 1947 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-12
- Registry model: [Piper PA-12](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-12) (registry code 7101202) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19780904026829A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19780904026829A), Sep 4, 1978: Piper PA12, Talkeetna,Ak, AK, Substantial damage. Ac departing from gravel bar.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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