# NTSB ANC86LA153: Fairchild 24-J, N20617, Talkeetna, AK, September 12, 1986

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: September 12, 1986, 10:10 local (18:10 UTC)
- Place: Talkeetna, AK
- Coordinates: 62.450263, -149.790542 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=62.4503&lon=-149.7905&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB office: Alaska Regional Office
- NTSB case key (mKey): 4737
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=ANC86LA153
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/4737/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC86LA153

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - terrain condition - loose gravel/sandy (contributing factor)
  - unsuitable terrain or takeoff/landing/taxi area - not understood, pilot in command (cause)
  - terrain condition - rough/uneven (contributing factor)
  - aircraft handling - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - ground loop/swerve - inadvertent, pilot in command (cause)
- On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, landing - roll

## Analysis

AFTER TOUCHDOWN ON A GRAVEL BAR THE PILOT LOST DIRECTIONAL CONTROL OF THE AIRCRAFT CAUSING THE AIRCRAFT TO GROUND LOOP TO THE LEFT.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N20617](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N20617-2012-08-08), registration cancelled 2012-08-08, S/N 3409, built 1938 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: FAIRCHILD 24-J
- Registry model: [Fairchild 24 J](https://openairdocs.org/model/fairchild-24-j) (registry code 3370408) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Warner SS165 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/warner-ss165-series) (registry code 64504, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 3409
- Airframe hours: 170
- Engines: RANGER 200 200 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Fire: Unknown
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Ellen Paneok
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, April 6, 1986, 50 hours before
- Departed: WASILLA, AK

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 26; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine sea, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 2,699 total, 30 in this make and model, 2,500 as pilot in command, 186 in the last 90 days, 70 in the last 30 days, 4 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 360° at 5 knots
- Visibility: 40 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 45 °F, dew point 36 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19860912044869A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19860912044869A), Sep 12, 1986: Frchld 24J, Talkeetna, AK, Substantial damage. Lost directional control during landing on gravel bar, ground looped, collided with berm.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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