# NTSB ATL07CA059: Stinson 108, N8384K, Lawrenceville, GA, March 25, 2007

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report
- Date: March 24, 2007, 20:20 local (Mar 25, 2007, 00:20 UTC)
- Place: Lawrenceville, GA
- Coordinates: 33.978054, -83.962219
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.9781&lon=-83.9622&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 4 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report June 27, 2007
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: College Park FSDO-11
- NTSB case key (mKey): 65477
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=ATL07CA059
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/65477/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL07CA059

## Probable cause

The pilot's failure to maintain directional control on landing roll out resulting in a ground loop.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - ground loop/swerve - encountered, pilot in command

## Analysis

The airplane veered off the runway and ground looped.  The pilot stated he made a visual approach to runway 25 and touched down on the main gear. The winds were calm. On touchdown the airplane veered to the left and departed the runway onto the grass. The airplane continued in a ground loop to the left before coming to a stop. The pilot stated he did not experience any mechanical problems with the airplane. Examination of the airplane revealed the right wing tip, right aileron tip, right wing root, right elevator tip, right main landing gear, and tail wheel were damaged.

## Factual narrative

The pilot stated he was conducting a VFR personal flight at night with three passengers. They departed Lawrenceville, Georgia, and flew around the local area  before returning to the airport. The pilot stated he made a visual approach to runway 25 and touched down on the main gear. The winds were calm. On touchdown the airplane veered to the left and departed the runway onto the grass. The airplane continued in a ground loop to the left before coming to a stop. The pilot stated he did not experience any mechanical problems with the airplane. Examination of the airplane revealed the right wing tip, right aileron tip, right wing root, right elevator tip, right main landing gear, and tail wheel were damaged.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8384K](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8384K-2014-03-06), registration cancelled 2014-03-06, S/N 108-1384, built 1946 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Stinson 108
- Registry model: [Universal Stinson 108-1](https://openairdocs.org/model/universal-stinson-108-1) (registry code 9230414) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Franklin 6A4150 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/franklin-6a4150-series) (registry code 27024, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 1354
- Airframe hours: 2430
- Engines: Franklin 6A4-150-B3 150 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Barry A. Bates
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, October 1, 2006, 22 hours before
- Departed: KLZU, Lawrenceville, GA
- Destination: KLZU, Lawrenceville, GA
- Airport: KLZU, Gwinnett County Briscoe Field, runway 25, 6,000 × 100 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 59; injuries: none; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 3, with waivers/limitations; last flight review June 1, 2006; flight hours: 1,167 total, 315 in this make and model, 999 as pilot in command, 4 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Night
- Wind: calm
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 63 °F, dew point 52 °F
- Altimeter: 30.30 inHg
- Observed at: KLZU

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20070324006259A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20070324006259A), Mar 24, 2007: Univar 1081, Lawrenceville, GA, Substantial damage. (-23) Pilot was landing on runway 25 at Briscoe field (lzu) in Lawrenceville, GA. As he was touching down, it appeared to the pilot that he was drifting to the…

## Other investigations on N8384K (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ERA13CA422](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA13CA422), Sep 19, 2013: Universal Stinson 108 1 (N8384K), Lawrenceville, GA, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during the landing, resulting in a ground loop, runway excursion, and structural damage to the right wing.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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