# NTSB ATL82DA113: Piper PA-38-112, N2368B, Montgomery, AL, April 23, 1982

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Final report
- Date: April 23, 1982, 14:15 local (20:15 UTC)
- Place: Montgomery, AL
- Coordinates: 32.33992, -86.399452 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=32.3399&lon=-86.3995&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report April 23, 1983
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 71755
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=ATL82DA113
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/71755/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL82DA113

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - level off - improper, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of total experience, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - recovery from bounced landing - improper, pilot in command (cause)
  - touch-and-go - performed, pilot in command
- Nose gear collapsed, landing - flare/touchdown
  - landing gear,nose gear - overload

## Analysis

THE STUDENT PILOT WAS ON HIS SECOND SUPERVISED SOLO FLIGHT. AFTER A 30 MINUTE LOCAL FLIGHT, HE RETURNED TO THE AIRPORT TO PRACTICE FULL-FLAP, TOUCH AND GO LANDINGS ON RUNWAY 9. THE WIND WAS FROM 100 DEGREES AT 11 KNOTS. DURING HIS FIRST LANDING, THE STUDENT TOUCHED DOWN HARD AT 70 KNOTS AND BOUNCED. HE ADDED POWER, BUT BOUNCED AGAIN. ON THE THIRD TOUCHDOWN, THE NOSEWHEEL COLLAPSED.

## Aircraft

- Registration: N2368B (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38-112
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 38 79A0027
- Airframe hours: 861
- Engines: LYCOMING O-235-L2C 112 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Montgomery Aviation Corporatio
- Registered owner: Montgomery Aviation Corporatio
- Departed: MGM, MONTGOMERY, AL
- Destination: MGM, MONTGOMERY, AL
- Airport: MGM, Dannelly Field, runway 9, 9,001 × 150 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 23; student; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; flight hours: 12 total, 12 in this make and model, 12 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 100° at 11 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Temperature: 156 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: MGM

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19820423013709A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19820423013709A), Apr 23, 1982: Piper PA38112, Montgomery, AL, Substantial damage. Student pilot allowed aircraft to bounce during landing until nose wheel collapsed.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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