# NTSB ATL83FA313: Cessna 177RGII, N7507V, Atlanta, GA, August 7, 1983

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Serious injuries · Field investigation · Final report
- Date: August 7, 1983, 16:38 local (20:38 UTC)
- Place: Atlanta, GA
- Coordinates: 33.74007, -84.570503 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.7401&lon=-84.5705&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Serious injuries
- Injuries: 1 serious, 3 minor
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 5942
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=ATL83FA313
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/5942/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL83FA313

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of engine power, takeoff - initial climb
  - reason for occurrence undetermined (cause)
- Forced landing, maneuvering - turn to landing area (emergency)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, landing - flare/touchdown
  - proper alignment - misjudged, dual student (cause)
  - proper alignment - not corrected, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - recovery from bounced landing - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - proper descent rate - not obtained, dual student (cause)
  - recovery from bounced landing - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
- Complete gear collapsed, landing - flare/touchdown
  - landing gear,main gear - overload
  - landing gear,nose gear - overload

## Analysis

JUST BEFORE ROTATION & DURING CLIMBOUT FROM RWY 26L THE ENG STARTED SURGING. THE ACFT MADE A LEFT TURN, INTO THE WIND, & THE STUDENT PLT ATTEMPTED TO LAND ON RWY 8R. THE ACFT BECAME MISALIGNED, OVERSHOT THE RWY, & MADE A HARD LANDING IN THE GRASS ABOUT 200 FT NORTH OF RWY 8R. NO ENG MALF WERE FOUND. HOWEVER, THE ACFT WAS REJECTED BY ANOTHER PLT THE DAY PRIOR TO THE ACCIDENT. THE PLT INDICATED THAT THE ACFT WAS NOT ACCELERATING PROPERLY, BUT DID NOT WRITE UP THE DISCREPANCY. A MECHANIC REPORTEDLY RAN THE ENG FOR THE OPERATOR BUT COULD NOT DUPLICATE THE PROBLEM. THERE WAS NO MENTION OF THE INCIDENT OR ANY CORRECTIVE ACTION IN THE ENG LOG OR OTHER OPERATOR MAINTENANCE RECORDS. THE ACFT WAS 62 LBS OVER MAX GROSS WEIGHT.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N7507V](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N7507V-1989-06-19), registration cancelled 1989-06-19, S/N 177RG0806 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 177RGII
- Registry model: [Cessna 177RG](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-177rg) (registry code 2073709) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming IO-360-A1B6D](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-io-360-a1b6d) (registry code 41593, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 177RG0806
- Airframe hours: 2145
- Engines: LYCOMING IO-360-A1B6P 200 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Charlie Brown, doing business as Flying Club
- Registered owner: Shaw And Holcombe Partnership
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, May 21, 1983, 71 hours before
- Airport: FTY, Fulton County, runway 8R, 5,796 × 100 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 37; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: right; flight hours: 4,057 total, 62 in this make and model, 3,930 as pilot in command, 316 in the last 90 days, 3 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 220° at 15 knots
- Visibility: 6 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 3,500 ft broken
- Temperature: 86 °F, dew point 66 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: FTY

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19830807039379A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19830807039379A), Aug 7, 1983: Cessna 177RG, Atlanta, GA, Substantial damage. Engine surged on climbout. Elected to turn back for runway downwind landing. Crashed. No engine defects found.

## Other investigations on N7507V (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB MIA78FKG48](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA78FKG48), Jun 10, 1978: Cessna 177RG (N7507V), Newman, GA, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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