# NTSB ATL85LA253: Piper PA-18S, N3267N, Carlisle, MS, August 20, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: August 19, 1985, 19:00 local (Aug 20, 1985, 00:00 UTC)
- Place: Carlisle, MS
- Location: 32.0027° N, 90.7845° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Carlisle, MS, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=32.0027&lon=-90.7845&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 6858
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=ATL85LA253
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/6858/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL85LA253

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Undershoot, approach - vfr pattern - final approach
  - proper glidepath - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - total, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - carburetor icing conditions (contributing factor)
- Loss of engine power, approach - vfr pattern - final approach
  - fuel system,carburetor - undetermined (cause)
  - weather condition - carburetor icing conditions (contributing factor)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, landing - flare/touchdown
  - landing gear,main gear - overload (contributing factor)
  - landing gear,nose gear - overload (contributing factor)

## Analysis

AFTER APRX 1 HR OF LCL FLT, THE 67 HR PVT PLT RETURNED TO HIS PVT GRASS STRIP FOR LANDING. HE MADE A FULL LEFT TRAFFIC PATTERN. AT THE 180 DEG POINT, CARB HEAT WAS APPLIED AND PWR REDUCED. AFTER TURNING FINAL AND LOWERING FULL FLAPS, THE PLT ADDED THROTTLE WITH NO RESPONSE. HE APPLIED FULL THROTTLE AND THE ENG COUGHED AND QUIT. THE ACFT STRUCK THE GROUND 15 FT SHORT OF THE RWY. THE LANDING GEAR COLLAPSED AND THE CARB WAS BROKEN FROM THE ACFT.

## Aircraft

- Registration: N3267N (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-18S
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 3588
- Airframe hours: 3534
- Engines: LYCOMING O-290-D2 135 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Sam Hatcher
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, April 3, 1985, 55 hours before
- Airport: Private Sod Strip

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 31; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: front; flight hours: 67 total, 16 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 120° at 4 knots
- Visibility: 7 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 18,000 ft broken
- Temperature: 86 °F, dew point 73 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: JAN, 38 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19850819039619A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19850819039619A), Aug 19, 1985: Piper L21B, Carlisle, MS, Substantial damage. Engine quit with attempted power application on final. Cause of power loss undetermined.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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