# NTSB ATL89LA092: Piper PA-25-235, N8510L, Waynesville, OH, February 19, 1989

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: February 19, 1989, 16:15 local (21:15 UTC)
- Place: Waynesville, OH
- Coordinates: 39.529533, -84.079902 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=39.5295&lon=-84.0799&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report April 19, 1990
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 7990
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=ATL89LA092
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/7990/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL89LA092

## Probable cause

THE PILOT DELAYED HIS LANDING/TOUCHDOWN, MISJUDGED THE DISTANCE OF THE REMAINING RUNWAY AND DID NOT GO AROUND. THE SLICK/THAWING RUNWAY CONDITIONS AND THE FENCES WERE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Overrun, landing - roll
  - touchdown - delayed, pilot in command (cause)
  - distance - misjudged, pilot in command (cause)
  - terrain condition - frozen (contributing factor)
  - terrain condition - wet (contributing factor)
  - go-around - not performed, pilot in command (cause)
- On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll
  - object - fence (contributing factor)

## Analysis

THE PLT RPRTD HE HAD MADE SEVERAL GLIDER TOW FLTS FROM THE GRASS STRIP, WHICH INITIALLY WAS FROZEN. ON THE LAST 2 FLTS, HE TOOK OFF TO THE WEST & LANDED TO THE EAST IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT TOW. AFTER THE 7TH TOW, HE HAD PLANNED A 'LONG' LANDING & THE ACFT TOUCHED DOWN PAST THE HALFWAY POINT IN CALM WIND. THE PLT RPRTD THAT WHEN HE APPLIED BRAKES, BRAKING WAS INEFFECTIVE. THE ACFT CONTD OFF THE END OF THE RWY & WENT THRU 2 FENCES BEFORE STOPPING. AT THE TIME OF THE ACDNT, THE FROZEN GROUND HAD JUST STARTED TO THAW AT THE SURFACE WHICH MADE THE GRASS SLIPPERY.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8510L](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N8510L), registered now, S/N 25-4925, built 1969 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-25-235
- Registry model: [Piper PA-25-235](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-25-235) (registry code 7102504) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-540 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-540-series) (registry code 41532, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 25-4925
- Airframe hours: 4083
- Engines: LYCOMING O-540-B2C5 235 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Part 91
- Operator: Caesar Creek Soaring Club
- Registered owner: Soaring Society Of Dayton, Inc
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, May 29, 1988, 189 hours before
- Airport: 20H9, Caesar Creek Gliderport, runway 9, 2,800 × 200 ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 46; private; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; flight hours: 1,811 total, 7 in this make and model, 1,719 as pilot in command, 29 in the last 90 days, 14 in the last 30 days, 2 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: calm
- Visibility: 15 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 10,000 ft overcast
- Temperature: 30 °F, dew point 19 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19890219003229A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19890219003229A), Feb 19, 1989: Piper PA25235, Waynesville, OH, Substantial damage. Landed long on glider strip. Unable to stop, went through two fences off end of runway.

## Other investigations on N8510L (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB IAD96LA059](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/IAD96LA059), Apr 10, 1996: Piper PA-25-235 (N8510L), Waynesville, OH, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to maintain control of the accident aircraft during the landing roll. Factors were the wet portion of the grass runway and the pilot's selection of a landing runway with a 10 knot…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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