# NTSB CEN09CA432: Remos Remos G-3/, N408RA, Erie, CO, July 12, 2009 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report - Date: July 12, 2009, 07:30 local (13:30 UTC) - Place: Erie, CO - Coordinates: 40.016387, -105.046112 - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.0164&lon=-105.0461&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Defining event: [Landing-flare/touchdown: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) - Highest injury: No injuries - Injuries: 2 uninjured - Status: Completed, report December 15, 2009 - Report: Approved by Office Director - NTSB office: Central Region - Parties: Federal Aviation Administration FSDO - NTSB case key (mKey): 74261 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CEN09CA432 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/74261/pdf - NTSB docket: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=74261 - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CEN09CA432 ## Probable cause The student pilot's improper recovery from a bounced landing and the flight instructor's delayed reaction to take control and recover. ## Findings NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause. - [Personnel issues](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02030000): Personnel issues › Experience/knowledge · Student/instructed pilot; cases with it: [Remos REMOS G-3/600, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02030000/cases.md?model=0600027), [All aircraft, 10 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02030000/cases.md) - [Action: delayed action](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041025): Personnel issues › Action/decision · Instructor/check pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Remos REMOS G-3/600, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041025/cases.md?model=0600027), [All aircraft, 894 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041025/cases.md) - [Action: incorrect action performance](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015): Personnel issues › Action/decision · Student/instructed pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Remos REMOS G-3/600, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015/cases.md?model=0600027), [All aircraft, 1,386 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015/cases.md) - [Performance/control parameters](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062000): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Not attained/maintained (probable cause); cases with it: [Remos REMOS G-3/600, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062000/cases.md?model=0600027), [All aircraft, 1,269 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062000/cases.md) ## Sequence of events The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened. - [Landing-flare/touchdown: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) (defining event); cases with it: [Remos REMOS G-3/600, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md?model=0600027), [All aircraft, 4,585 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md) - [Landing-flare/touchdown: Runway excursion](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300); cases with it: [Remos REMOS G-3/600, 2 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md?model=0600027), [All aircraft, 3,643 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md) ## Analysis The pre-solo student pilot bounced the airplane on touchdown during a dual instructional training flight. The certified flight instructor (CFI)called for a go-around and the student pilot added full power. The student pilot stalled the airplane and it bounced again. At this time the CFI took the controls and attempted to continue the go-around. The airplane would not accelerate and drifted to the right of the runway and into the grass. The airplane sustained substantial damage. The student pilot and CFI were not injured. There were no known mechanical or flight control anomalies noted prior to the accident. ## Factual narrative The pre-solo student pilot bounced the airplane on touchdown during a dual instructional training flight. The certified flight instructor called for a go around and the student pilot added full power. The student pilot stalled the airplane and it bounced again. At this time the certified flight instructor took the controls and attempted to continue the go around. The airplane would not accelerate and slowing drifted to the right of the runway and into the grass. The airplane sustained substantial damage. The student pilot and certified flight instructor were not injured. There were no known mechanical or flight control anomalies noted prior to the accident. ## Aircraft - Registration: [N408RA](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N408RA-2013-11-07), registration cancelled 2013-11-07, S/N 237, built 2008 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: REMOS AIRCRAFT GMBH REMOS G-3/ - Registry model: [Remos REMOS G-3/600](https://openairdocs.org/model/remos-remos-g-3-600) (registry code 0600027) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Rotax 912ULS series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/rotax-912uls-series) (registry code 55572, 4 cycle) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 237 - Airframe hours: 375 - Engines: ROTAX 912ULS 100 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Instructional, Part 91 - Operator: Skyraider Aviation Inc - Registered owner: Skyraider Aviation Inc - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: Annual, June 30, 2009 - Departed: KEIK, Erie, CO - Destination: KEIK, Erie, CO - Airport: KEIK, Erie Municipal Airport, runway 15, 4,700 × 60 ft, concrete ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Flight instructor; age 61; injuries: none; airline transport; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, with waivers/limitations; last flight review November 28, 2008; seat: right; flight hours: 6,000 total, 15 in this make and model, 5,800 as pilot in command, 30 in the last 90 days, 15 in the last 30 days, 1 in the last 24 hours - Student pilot; age 51; injuries: none; seat: left; flight hours: 8 total, 8 in this make and model, 1 in the last 24 hours ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: calm - Visibility: 50 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: none - Temperature: 66 °F, dew point 48 °F - Altimeter: 30.25 inHg - Observed at: KBJC, 7 nm away ## FAA reports on this event (1) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 20090712014849A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20090712014849A), Jul 12, 2009: Remos REMOSG3600, Erie, CO, Substantial damage. (-23) On July 12, 2009 the instructor was instructing student pilot in N408RA, a Remos G-3, a light sport category airplane at Erie, colrado tri-county… ## Docket (1 files) The files NTSB released with the investigation on October 2, 2009, on NTSB's docket system: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=74261. 468 KB in all. - Pilot/Operator Aircraft Accident Report, NTSB Form 6120.1 (item 1, .PDF, 468 KB): https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=40319541&FileExtension=.PDF&FileName=Pilot%2FOperator%20Aircraft%20Accident%20Report,%20NTSB%20Form%206120.1-Redacted.PDF From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. 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