# NTSB CEN10CA329: Piper/Wally'S Flyers J3C-65, N25WF, Crystal, MN, June 19, 2010 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report - Date: June 19, 2010, 08:53 local (13:53 UTC) - Place: Crystal, MN - Coordinates: 45.061943, -93.353889 (estimated) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=45.0619&lon=-93.3539&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Defining event: [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) - Highest injury: No injuries - Injuries: 2 uninjured - Status: Completed, report October 21, 2010 - Report: Approved by Office Director - NTSB office: Central Region - Parties: FAA Minneapolis FSDO - NTSB case key (mKey): 76371 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CEN10CA329 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/76371/pdf - NTSB docket: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=76371 - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CEN10CA329 ## Probable cause The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during the crosswind landing and the instructor pilot's delayed remedial action. ## Findings NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause. - [Performance/control parameters: crosswind correction](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062030): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Not attained/maintained (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper/Wally'S Flyers J3C-65, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062030/cases.md?model=7100537), [All aircraft, 184 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062030/cases.md) - [Action: incorrect action performance](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015): Personnel issues › Action/decision · Pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper/Wally'S Flyers J3C-65, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015/cases.md?model=7100537), [All aircraft, 1,386 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015/cases.md) - [Action: delayed action](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041025): Personnel issues › Action/decision · Instructor/check pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper/Wally'S Flyers J3C-65, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041025/cases.md?model=7100537), [All aircraft, 894 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041025/cases.md) - [Wind: gusts](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034045): Environmental issues › Conditions/weather/phenomena · Contributed to outcome; cases with it: [Piper/Wally'S Flyers J3C-65, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034045/cases.md?model=7100537), [All aircraft, 1,199 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034045/cases.md) - [Object/animal/substance: sign/marker](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022015): Environmental issues › Physical environment · Contributed to outcome; cases with it: [Piper/Wally'S Flyers J3C-65, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022015/cases.md?model=7100537), [All aircraft, 214 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022015/cases.md) ## Sequence of events The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened. - [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) (defining event); cases with it: [Piper/Wally'S Flyers J3C-65, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md?model=7100537), [All aircraft, 4,585 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md) - [Landing-landing roll: Collision with terr/obj (non-CFIT) ](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470); cases with it: [Piper/Wally'S Flyers J3C-65, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md?model=7100537), [All aircraft, 10,189 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md) ## Analysis The pilot flying the airplane was in training to get a tailwheel endorsement and a flight review since he was not current. The pilot and flight instructor did some air work in the practice area before returning to the airport to practice takeoffs and full stop landings. The pilot completed ten takeoffs and full stop landings with a right crosswind. They changed runways in order to practice a left crosswind landing. The flare and landing were normal. During the landing roll out, a gust of wind lifted the left wing and caused the airplane to weather vane and veer off the left side of the runway. The airplane struck an airport sign damaging the right horizontal stabilizer and right elevator. The flight instructor stated, “I should have corrected the aircraft sooner and before my student got out of control.” ## Factual narrative The pilot flying the airplane was in training so that he could get a tail wheel endorsement and a flight review since he was not current. The pilot and flight instructor did some air work in the practice area before returning to the airport to practice takeoffs and full stop landings. The pilot completed ten takeoffs and full stop landings with a right crosswind. They changed runways in order to practice a left crosswind landing. The flare and landing were normal. During the landing roll out, a gust of wind lifted the left wing and caused the airplane to weathervane and veer off the left side of the runway. The airplane struck an airport sign damaging the right horizontal stabilizer and right elevator. The flight instructor stated, “I should have corrected the aircraft sooner and before my student got out of control.” ## Aircraft - Registration: [N25WF](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N25WF), registered now, S/N 5671 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER/WALLY'S FLYERS INC J3C-65 - Registry model: [Piper/Wally'S Flyers J3C-65](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-wally-s-flyers-j3c-65) (registry code 7100537) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Continental A&C65 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-a-c65-series) (registry code 17003, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 5671 - Engines: CONT MOTOR A&C65 SERIES 85 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Instructional, Part 91 - Operator: Wallys Flyers Inc - Registered owner: Wallys Flyers Inc - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Departed: MIC, Crystal, MN - Destination: MIC, Crystal, MN - Flight plan: VFR - Airport: MIC, Crystal Airport, runway 32R, 3,263 × 75 ft, asphalt ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Flight instructor; age 60; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, with waivers/limitations; flight hours: 4,500 total, 50 in this make and model - Pilot; age 51; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 2, without waivers/limitations; flight hours: 213 total, 21 in this make and model, 150 in the last 90 days, 76 in the last 30 days, 1 in the last 24 hours ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: 290° at 10 knots, gusting 15 - Visibility: 10 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: none ## FAA reports on this event (1) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 20100619037189A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20100619037189A), Jun 19, 2010: Piper/Wally J3C-65, Crystal, MN, Substantial damage. On June 19,2010 at Crystal airport (kmic) [privacy data omitted] was providing flight instruction to a non-current private pilot for the purpose of obtaining a… ## Other investigations on N25WF (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB CHI88LA173](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI88LA173), Jul 22, 1988: Piper J-3 (N25WF), Minneapolis, MN, substantial damage ## Docket (2 files) The files NTSB released with the investigation on July 12, 2010, on NTSB's docket system: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=76371. 3.4 MB in all. - Pilot/Operator Aircraft Accident Report, NTSB Form 6120.1 (item 1, .PDF, 2.2 MB): https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=40332338&FileExtension=.PDF&FileName=Pilot%2FOperator%20Aircraft%20Accident%20Report,%20NTSB%20Form%206120.1-Master.PDF - Pilot/Operator Aircraft Accident Report, NTSB Form 6120.1 (item 2, .PDF, 1.2 MB): https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=40332340&FileExtension=.PDF&FileName=Pilot%2FOperator%20Aircraft%20Accident%20Report,%20NTSB%20Form%206120.1-Master.PDF From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.