# NTSB CEN11CA032: Piper PA-28-140, N8038N, Rose Hill, KS, October 17, 2010 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report - Date: October 17, 2010, 08:35 local (13:35 UTC) - Place: Rose Hill, KS - Coordinates: 37.566387, -97.174446 (estimated) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=37.5664&lon=-97.1744&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Defining event: [Landing-landing roll: Runway excursion](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300) - Highest injury: No injuries - Injuries: 2 uninjured - Status: Completed, report April 12, 2011 - Report: Approved by Office Director - NTSB office: Central Region - NTSB case key (mKey): 77652 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CEN11CA032 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/77652/pdf - NTSB docket: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=77652 - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CEN11CA032 ## Probable cause The pilot's improper touchdown point during landing, which resulted in a runway overrun. ## Findings NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause. - [Aircraft capability: landing distance](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01061030): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Capability exceeded (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper PA-28-140, 2 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01061030/cases.md?model=7102802), [All aircraft, 68 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01061030/cases.md) - [Action: incorrect action performance](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015): Personnel issues › Action/decision · Pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper PA-28-140, 15 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015/cases.md?model=7102802), [All aircraft, 1,386 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015/cases.md) ## Sequence of events The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened. - [Landing-landing roll: Runway excursion](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300) (defining event); cases with it: [Piper PA-28-140, 47 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md?model=7102802), [All aircraft, 3,643 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md) ## Analysis According to the pilot, he was landing with light wind. He performed a go-around on the first attempt because the airspeed was too high. On the second attempt, the pilot determined that his airspeed was still a little too high and the airplane floated past his intended landing point. The pilot then applied brakes, but was not able to stop on the remaining runway. The airplane departed the end of the runway and the landing gear sheared, resulting in substantial damage to the wings and firewall. The pilot reported no preimpact malfunctions with the airplane and a postaccident examination revealed no mechanical malfunctions or failures that would have precluded normal operation. ## Factual narrative The private pilot was landing at the destination airport with light winds. The pilot performed a go-around on the first attempt because the airplane's airspeed was too high. On the second attempt, the pilot was still "a little too fast" and floated the airplane past his intended landing point. Upon touchdown, the pilot applied brakes, but was not able to stop the airplane on the remaining runway. The airplane departed the end of the runway, impacted terrain, and sheared the airplane's landing gear resulting in substantial damage to the wings and firewall. The pilot reported no malfunctions with the airplane prior to the accident. ## Aircraft - Registration: [N8038N](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8038N-2011-01-31), registration cancelled 2011-01-31, S/N 28-25283, built 1968 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-140 - Registry model: [Piper PA-28-140](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-140) (registry code 7102802) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 28-25283 - Airframe hours: 6856 - Engines: LYCOMING O-320 SERIES 180 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Personal, Part 91 - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: Annual, November 12, 2009 - Departed: KSLN, Salina Muni, KS - Destination: K50, Rose Hill, KS - Airport: K50, Cook Airfield, runway 35, 2,507 × 40 ft, asphalt ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Pilot; age 48; injuries: none; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, without waivers/limitations; last flight review June 18, 2009; seat: left; flight hours: 301 total, 257 in this make and model, 286 as pilot in command, 15 in the last 90 days, 7 in the last 30 days ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: 30° at 3 knots - Visibility: 10 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: none - Temperature: 54 °F, dew point 45 °F - Altimeter: 30.10 inHg - Observed at: IAB, 6 nm away ## FAA reports on this event (1) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 20101017048009A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20101017048009A), Oct 17, 2010: Piper PA-28-140, Derby, KS, Substantial damage. On October 17th, 2010, at approximately 0835 local time (1335 UTC), a private pilot was involved in an aircraft accident resulting from the aircraft exiting… ## Other investigations on N8038N (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB DEN77FTE60](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN77FTE60), Jun 23, 1977: Piper PA-28 (N8038N), Colo Springs, CO, substantial damage ## Docket (2 files) The files NTSB released with the investigation on December 20, 2010, on NTSB's docket system: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=77652. 651 KB in all. - Pilot's statement (item 1, .PDF, 637 KB): https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=40341018&FileExtension=.PDF&FileName=Pilot%27s%20statement-Redacted.PDF - Pilot/Operator Aircraft Accident Report, NTSB Form 6120.1: Not obtained (item 2, .PDF, 14 KB): https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=40341019&FileExtension=.PDF&FileName=Pilot%2FOperator%20Aircraft%20Accident%20Report,%20NTSB%20Form%206120.1%3A%20Not%20obtained-Master.PDF From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.