# NTSB CHI02LA031: Piper PA-28-161, N523PU, New Ulm, MN, November 6, 2001

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 6, 2001, 14:45 local (20:45 UTC)
- Place: New Ulm, MN
- Coordinates: 44.310913, -94.45977 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=44.3109&lon=-94.4598&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report July 2, 2002
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: FAA-Minneapolis, Minnesota-FSDO
- NTSB case key (mKey): 53799
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI02LA031
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/53799/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI02LA031

## Probable cause

The student and flight instructor not using all of the available runway, the inadequate supervision by the flight instructor and the unsuccessful remedial action by the flight instructor.  The student not attaining the proper touchdown point and the plowed field were factors.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Overrun, landing
  - proper touchdown point - not attained, dual student (contributing factor)
  - all available runway - not used, flightcrew (cause)
  - supervision - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - remedial action - not successful, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - terrain condition - plowed/furrowed (contributing factor)
- On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, landing

## Analysis

The airplane was damaged when it overran the runway while landing.  Airplane was piloted by a certified flight instructor (CFI) and student.  The dual student held a private pilot certificate.  In a written report, the CFI said that he and his student were performing a simulated engine failure to runway 22 at ULM.  He said that, "...upon reaching final we were high.  In my [judgment] however we had room to stop safely.  Upon touchdown I applied [brakes], and realized that we were slipping on the grass, and would not be able to stop.  So I added full power with one notch of flaps for a short field takeoff.  As the end of the runway approached I knew that we would not have enough airspeed to takeoff.  Therefore I closed the throttle and applied full [brakes] as we went into the plowed field off the end of [runway] 22."  During an interview , the CFI told the inspector that he took control of the airplane at the touchdown. In his written report, the CFI indicated no mechanical malfunction of the airplane and no anomalies were found during a postaccident examination of the airplane.

## Factual narrative

On November 6, 2001, at 1445 central standard time, a Piper PA-28-161, N523PU, piloted by a certified flight instructor (CFI) and dual student, was substantially damaged when on landing it overran runway 22 (2,825 feet by 160 feet, turf), at the New Ulm Municipal Airport (ULM), New Ulm, Minnesota.  The dual student held a private pilot certificate.  The instructional flight was operating in visual meteorological conditions and was not on a flight plan.  The flight was conducted under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91.  The CFI and student were not injured.  The intended local flight originated from the Mankato Regional Airport (MKT), Mankato, Minnesota, at 1400.

In a written report, the CFI said that he and his student were performing a simulated engine failure to runway 22 at ULM.  He said that, "...upon reaching final we were high.  In my [judgment] however we had room to stop safely.  Upon touchdown I applied [brakes], and realized that we were slipping on the grass, and would not be able to stop.  So I added full power with one notch of flaps for a short field takeoff.  As the end of the runway approached I knew that we would not have enough airspeed to takeoff.  Therefore I closed the throttle and applied full [brakes] as we went into the plowed field off the end of [runway] 22."

During an interview with a Federal Aviation Administration inspector, the CFI told the inspector that he took control of the airplane at the touchdown.

In his written report, the CFI indicated no mechanical malfunction of the airplane and no anomalies were found during a postaccident examination of the airplane.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N523PU](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N523PU), registered now, S/N 2841188, built 1989 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Piper PA-28-161
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-161](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-161) (registry code 7102803) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 2841188
- Airframe hours: 8686
- Engines: Lycoming O-320-D3G 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: North Star Aviation
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, September 12, 2001, 27 hours before
- Departed: MKT, MANKATO, MN
- Airport: ULM, New Ulm Muni, runway 22, 2,825 × 160 ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Flight instructor; age 23; injuries: none; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; last flight review August 3, 2001; seat: right; flight hours: 328 total, 115 in this make and model, 255 as pilot in command, 28 in the last 90 days, 9 in the last 30 days, 1 in the last 24 hours
- Other flight crew; age 21; injuries: none; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; last flight review June 6, 2000; seat: left; flight hours: 205 total, 15 in this make and model, 156 as pilot in command, 3 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 30 days, 0 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 10° at 5 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Temperature: 68 °F, dew point 48 °F
- Altimeter: 30.04 inHg
- Observed at: ULM

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20011106031009A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20011106031009A), Nov 6, 2001: Piper PA28161, New Ulm, MN, No damage. (-23) Simulated engine out landing initiated at 4,500 MSL. Student positioned aircraft for landing on runway 22 (a grass runway). Instructor directed student…

## Other investigations on N523PU (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI08CA265](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI08CA265), Aug 24, 2008: Piper PA-28-161 (N523PU), New Ulm, MN, substantial damage. Probable cause: The failure of airport personnel to correct a hazardous condition on the airport. A factor was the uncovered manhole.
- [NTSB CHI94LA335](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI94LA335), Sep 17, 1994: Piper PA-28-161 (N523PU), W. Lafayette, IN, substantial damage. Probable cause: THE PILOT'S IMPROPER LEVEL-OFF AND RECOVERY FROM A BOUNCED LANDING. A FACTOR IN THE ACCIDENT WAS THE PILOT'S LACK OF TRAINING FOR RECOVERY FROM BOUNCED LANDINGS AND/OR ABORTED TAKEOFFS.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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