# NTSB CHI08CA167: Piper PA-22-150, N697DM, Wadena, MN, June 17, 2008

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report
- Date: June 17, 2008, 10:30 local (15:30 UTC)
- Place: Wadena, MN
- Coordinates: 46.45, -95.20639
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=46.4500&lon=-95.2064&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Defining event: [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report July 30, 2008
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: Minneapolis, MN
- NTSB case key (mKey): 68263
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI08CA167
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/68263/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI08CA167

## Probable cause

The pilot's failure to maintain control of the tail wheel airplane during the landing roll. A factor associated with the accident was the pilot's lack of recent experience in tail wheel airplanes.

## Findings

NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause.

- [Use of equip/info: aircraft control](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063040): Personnel issues › Task performance · Pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper PA-22-150, 52 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063040/cases.md?model=7102210), [All aircraft, 9,295 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063040/cases.md)
- [Experience/qualifications: recent experience w/ equipment](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02031045): Personnel issues › Experience/knowledge · Pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper PA-22-150, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02031045/cases.md?model=7102210), [All aircraft, 31 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02031045/cases.md)

## Sequence of events

The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened.

- [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) (defining event); cases with it: [Piper PA-22-150, 48 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md?model=7102210), [All aircraft, 4,585 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md)
- [Landing-landing roll: Collision with terr/obj (non-CFIT) ](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470); cases with it: [Piper PA-22-150, 41 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md?model=7102210), [All aircraft, 10,189 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md)

## Analysis

The pilot reported that the landing approach and touchdown were normal until the airplane "veered hard to the left on roll-out." He stated that he applied full right rudder, but the airplane did not respond. He then applied "nominal" right brake pressure at which time the airplane ground looped to the right. The pilot reported that he had just re-qualified to fly a tail dragger. He reported having 3 hours of total time in the same make and model as the accident airplane.

## Factual narrative

On June 17, 2008, at 1030 central daylight time, a Piper PA-22-150, N697DM, ground looped while landing on runway 34 (4,005 feet by 75 feet, asphalt) at the Wadena Municipal Airport (ADC), Wadena, Minnesota. The pilot and passenger were not injured. The airplane received substantial damage to the left wing spar. The Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 personal flight was operating in visual meteorological conditions and no flight plan was filed. The airplane departed from Amery, Wisconsin, at 0830. The pilot reported the landing approach and touch down were normal until the airplane "... veered hard to the left on roll-out." He stated he applied full right rudder, but the airplane did not respond. He then applied "nominal" right brake pressure at which time the airplane ground looped to the right. The pilot reported he just got re-qualified to fly a tail dragger. The pilot reported having 3 hours of total time in the make and model of airplane involved in the accident.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N697DM](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N697DM-2018-03-30), registration cancelled 2018-03-30, S/N 227376, built 1960 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Piper PA-22-150
- Registry model: [Piper PA-22-150](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-22-150) (registry code 7102210) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 22-7376
- Engines: Lycoming O-320-A2B reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Robert Wild
- Registered owner: John Sloss
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Departed: ADC, Wadena, MN
- Destination: DVL, Devils Lake, ND

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 54; injuries: none; commercial, airline transport; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine sea, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, without waivers/limitations; flight hours: 20,106 total, 3 in this make and model, 18,702 as pilot in command, 241 in the last 90 days, 90 in the last 30 days, 8 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 290° at 10 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 72 °F, dew point 55 °F
- Altimeter: 30.10 inHg
- Observed at: SAZ

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20080617840749A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080617840749A), Jun 17, 2008: Piper PA22150, Wadena, MN, Substantial damage. (-23) The aircraft was landing on runway 34 at kadc. The wind was gusting from 280 degrees to 320 degrees from 8 to 12 knots. Aircraft ground looped on landing…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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