# NTSB CHI73DEA19: Piper PA-30, N8461Y, Franklin, IN, October 27, 1972

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: October 27, 1972
- Place: Franklin, IN · FRANKLIN, IN
- Location: 39.4956° N, 86.0502° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Franklin, IN, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=39.4956&lon=-86.0502&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report March 10, 1973
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 168984
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI73DEA19
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI73DEA19

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-3014  72/10/27   FRANKLIN,IND        PIPER PA-30         CR-  0  0  2  INSTRUCTIONAL             COMMERCIAL, FL.INSTR.,
        TIME - 1450                    N8461Y              PX-  0  0  0  DUAL                      AGE 42, 8670 TOTAL HOURS,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            1250 IN TYPE, NOT
                                                                                                   INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT -  FRANKLIN
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          FRANKLIN,IND                LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           OVERSHOOT                                                LANDING: LEVEL OFF/TOUCHDOWN
           COLLIDED WITH: DIRT BANK                                 LANDING: ROLL
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           DUAL STUDENT - MISJUDGED DISTANCE AND SPEED
           DUAL STUDENT - FAILED TO INITIATE GO-AROUND
           PILOT IN COMMAND - INADEQUATE SUPERVISION OF FLIGHT
        FACTOR(S)
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - DOWNWIND
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - CREW COORDINATION-POOR
           AIRPORTS/AIRWAYS/FACILITIES - AIRPORT CONDITIONS: WET RUNWAY
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8461Y](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8461Y-2012-01-23), registration cancelled 2012-01-23, S/N 30-1621, built 1967 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-30
- Registry model: [Piper PA-30](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-30) (registry code 7103002) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming IO-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-io-320-series) (registry code 41509, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport:  Franklin

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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