# NTSB CHI78DEP38: Piper PA-18, N9843Q, Lake Winnebego, WI, June 15, 1978

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: June 15, 1978
- Place: Lake Winnebego, WI · LAKE WINNEBEGO, WI
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report October 3, 1978
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 140723
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI78DEP38
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI78DEP38

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-2306  78/6/15    LAKE WINNEBEGO,WI   PIPER PA-18         CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             PRIVATE, AGE 31, 535
        TIME - 2045                    N9843Q              PX-  0  0  1  PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP  TOTAL HOURS, 30 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          LAKE WINNEBEGO,WI           LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           STALL: MUSH                                              TAKEOFF: INITIAL CLIMB
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - PREMATURE LIFT-OFF
        REMARKS- FLOAT EQPD.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N9843Q](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N9843Q), registered now, S/N 18-3524, built 1954 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-18
- Registry model: [Piper PA-18-135](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-18-135) (registry code 7101820) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-290 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-290-series) (registry code 41506, 4 cycle) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19780615022769A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19780615022769A), Jun 15, 1978: Piper PA18135, Lake Winnebego, WI, Substantial damage. Float eqpd.

## Other investigations on N9843Q (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI94LA237](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI94LA237), Jul 20, 1994: Piper PA-18-135 (N9843Q), Butte Des Mort, WI, substantial damage. Probable cause: A DELAYED REMEDIAL ACTION BY THE INSTRUCTOR. A FACTOR IN THIS ACCIDENT WAS A PROPER AIRSPEED NOT BEING ATTAINED BY THE DUAL STUDENT.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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