# NTSB CHI79DEE63: Piper PA-38, N2365N, Lansing, IL, June 19, 1979

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: June 19, 1979
- Place: Lansing, IL · LANSING, IL
- Location: 41.5650° N, 87.5460° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Lansing, IL, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.5650&lon=-87.5460&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report August 9, 1979
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 135878
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI79DEE63
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI79DEE63

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-1746  79/6/19    LANSING,IL          PIPER PA-38         CR-  0  0  2  INSTRUCTIONAL             COMMERCIAL, FL.INSTR.,
        TIME - 1530                    N2365N              PX-  0  0  0  DUAL                      AGE 23, 955 TOTAL HOURS,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            24 IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT
                                                                                                   RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - LANSING MUNI
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          LANSING,IL                  LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           UNDERSHOOT                                               LANDING: FINAL APPROACH
           COLLIDED WITH: OBJECT                                    LANDING: FINAL APPROACH
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - MISJUDGED DISTANCE AND ALTITUDE
        FACTOR(S)
           WEATHER - UNFAVORABLE WIND CONDITIONS
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - SIMULATED CONDITIONS
        SKY CONDITION                                            CEILING AT ACCIDENT SITE
          SCATTERED                                                UNLIMITED
        VISIBILITY AT ACCIDENT SITE                              PRECIPITATION AT ACCIDENT SITE
          5 OR OVER(UNLIMITED)                                     NONE
        OBSTRUCTIONS TO VISION AT ACCIDENT SITE                  RELATIVE BEARING OF WIND
          HAZE                                                     RIGHT QUARTERING HEAD WIND 023-067 DEGREES
        TEMPERATURE-F                                            WIND DIRECTION-DEGREES
           80                                                      135
        WIND VELOCITY-KNOTS                                      TYPE OF WEATHER CONDITIONS
           15                                                      VFR
        TYPE OF FLIGHT PLAN
          NONE
        REMARKS- SIMULATED ENG FAIL APPROACH.GUSTS TO 25K.HIT GUARDRAIL.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2365N](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2365N-1992-07-16), registration cancelled 1992-07-16, S/N 3879A0811 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38
- Registry model: [Piper PA-38-112](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (registry code 7103812) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Lansing Muni

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19790619014899A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19790619014899A), Jun 19, 1979: Piper PA38112, Lansing, IL, Substantial damage. Instructor allowed aircraft to strike a guard rail short of rwy on simulated forced landing.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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