# NTSB CHI82DA065: Piper PA-38-112, N25743, Elyria, OH, February 22, 1982

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Final report
- Date: February 22, 1982, 14:55 local (19:55 UTC)
- Place: Elyria, OH
- Coordinates: 41.370346, -82.099349 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.3703&lon=-82.0993&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report February 22, 1983
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 70589
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI82DA065
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/70589/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI82DA065

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Abrupt maneuver, landing - flare/touchdown
  - elevator - excessive, dual student (cause)
  - supervision - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - lack of total experience in type operation, pilot in command(cfi) (contributing factor)
- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
- On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, landing - roll
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - snowbank (contributing factor)
- Gear collapsed, landing - roll
  - landing gear - overload (contributing factor)

## Analysis

DURING THE LANDING FLARE THE STUDENT OVERCORRECTED WITH FULL AFT ELEVATOR. THE AIRCRAFT PITCHED UP, THE INSTRUCTOR APPLIED FULL POWER, AND THE AIRCRAFT BOUNCED AND DRIFTED INTO A SNOW BANK. THE INSTRUCTOR WAS REPORTED TO HAVE ABOUT 20 HOURS INSTRUCTING.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N25743](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N25743), registered now, S/N 38-81A0072, built 1981 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38-112
- Registry model: [Piper PA-38-112](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (registry code 7103812) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-235 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (registry code 41505, 4 cycle) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 3881A0072
- Airframe hours: 272
- Engines: LYCOMING O-235-L2C 112 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Air Investments Associates
- Registered owner: Air Investments Associates
- Departed: 1GG, STRONGVILLE, OH
- Destination: 1GG, STRONGVILLE, OH
- Airport: 1G1, Elyria, runway 27, 3,060 × 50 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 19; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; flight hours: 296 total, 167 in this make and model, 209 as pilot in command, 9 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 300° at 10 knots
- Visibility: 5 statute miles
- Temperature: 104 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19820222005149A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19820222005149A), Feb 22, 1982: Piper PA38112, Elyria, OH, Substantial damage. During flare student used full up elevator. Airplane bounced, drifted into snowbank. Low time CFI failed to check.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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