# NTSB CHI82DA268: Piper PA-38, N2365P, Antioch, IL, July 23, 1982

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Final report
- Date: July 23, 1982, 12:30 local (17:30 UTC)
- Place: Antioch, IL
- Coordinates: 42.470935, -88.069831 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.4709&lon=-88.0698&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report July 23, 1983
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 69793
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI82DA268
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/69793/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI82DA268

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- In flight collision with object, takeoff - initial climb
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - wet (contributing factor)
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - soft (contributing factor)
  - preflight planning/preparation - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - lowering of flaps - not performed, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - aborted takeoff - not performed, pilot in command (cause)
  - airspeed - not obtained, pilot in command
  - object (contributing factor)
  - stall/mush - inadvertent, pilot in command
- In flight collision with terrain/water, descent - uncontrolled

## Analysis

THE PILOT INITIATED A SOFT FIELD TAKEOFF FROM A 2200 FT, WET, GRASS RUNWAY. AFTER BECOMING AIRBORNE, HE LOWERED THE NOSE OF THE AIRCRAFT TO INCREASE HIS AIRSPEED. THE PILOT STATED THAT THE AIRCRAFT FAILED TO CLIMB AS EXPECTED AND WOULD NOT CLEAR BOATS THAT WERE PARKED NEAR THE END OF THE RUNWAY. THE LANDING GEAR STRUCK THE BOATS AND THE PLANE NOSED OVER ON ITS BACK. REPORTEDLY, THE PILOT DID NOT USE FLAPS FOR TAKEOFF AND DID NOT REALIZE HOW SOFT THE RUNWAY REALLY WAS.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2365P](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2365P-1982-11-06), registration cancelled 1982-11-06, S/N 38-79A0964, built 1979 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38
- Registry model: [Piper PA-38-112](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (registry code 7103812) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 3879A0964
- Airframe hours: 1304
- Engines: LYCOMING O-235-L2C 112 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Flight: Business, Part 91
- Operator: Omni Flight Helicopters
- Registered owner: Air Chicago Land Ltd
- Departed: IL11, ANTIOCH, IL
- Destination: JANESVILLE, WI
- Airport: IL11, Antioch, runway 9, 2,200 × 200 ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 35; commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; flight hours: 3,557 total, 163 in this make and model, 41 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 45° at 8 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Temperature: 158 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19820723031739A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19820723031739A), Jul 23, 1982: Piper PA38112, Antioch, IL, Destroyed. Struck boats off end of runway on takeoff climb. Soft runway, early liftoff. Unable to climb. Failed to use flaps

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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