# NTSB CHI83LA072: Piper PA-38-112, N25920, Detroit, MI, January 3, 1983

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: January 3, 1983, 11:35 local (16:35 UTC)
- Place: Detroit, MI
- Location: 42.4124° N, 83.0106° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at COLEMAN A YOUNG MUNI (DET), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.4124&lon=-83.0106&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 12061
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI83LA072
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/12061/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI83LA072

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - level off - improper, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of total experience, pilot in command (contributing factor)
- Complete gear collapsed, landing - flare/touchdown
  - landing gear,main gear - overload (contributing factor)
  - landing gear,main gear - failure,total (contributing factor)
  - landing gear,nose gear - overload (contributing factor)
  - landing gear,nose gear - failure,total (contributing factor)

## Analysis

THE PLT STATED THAT AS SHE WAS CROSSING THE THRESHOLD SHE NOTICED THAT THE ACFT HAD BEEN BLOWN OVER TOO FAR TO THE RIGHTOF THE RWY. AFTER CORRECTING FOR THIS, SHE LEVELED OFF TOO HIGH & THE ACFT NOSED DOWN ONTO THE RWY.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N25920](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N25920-2011-04-19), registration cancelled 2011-04-19, S/N 38-81A0082, built 1981 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38-112
- Registry model: [Piper PA-38-112](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (registry code 7103812) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-235 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (registry code 41505, 4 cycle) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 38-81A-0082
- Airframe hours: 752
- Engines: LYCOMING O-235-L2D 112 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: Olsen Flight Service, Inc.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, May 5, 1982, 100 hours before
- Airport: DET, Detroit City, runway 33, 5,091 × 100 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 35; student; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 23 total, 23 in this make and model, 1 as pilot in command, 23 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 280° at 6 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 27 °F, dew point 16 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: DET

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19830103000059A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19830103000059A), Jan 3, 1983: Piper PA38112, Detroit, MI, Substantial damage. Student pilot made hard landing causing substantial damage to aircraft.

## Other investigations on N25920 (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI96LA345](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI96LA345), Sep 20, 1996: Piper PA-38-112 (N25920), Kearney, MO, substantial damage. Probable cause: the pilot's improper use of carburetor heat, which resulted in a reduction of engine power and subsequent collision with the terrain, during a forced landing.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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