# NTSB CHI83LA192: Piper PA-28-181, N82717, Minneapolis, MN, April 26, 1983

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: April 26, 1983, 14:00 local (19:00 UTC)
- Place: Minneapolis, MN
- Location: 44.9800° N, 93.2638° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Minneapolis, MN, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=44.9800&lon=-93.2638&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 12155
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI83LA192
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/12155/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI83LA192

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of engine power(total) - nonmechanical, approach
  - fluid,fuel - starvation (cause)
  - fuel system - improper use of, pilot in command (cause)
- Forced landing, landing
  - emergency procedure - initiated, pilot in command (contributing factor)
- In flight collision with object, landing
  - object - tree(s) (contributing factor)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, landing

## Analysis

AFTER TAKEOFF, THE PLT ELECTED TO PRACTICE TOUCH-AND-GO LANDINGS. AFTER ABOUT 5 LANDINGS, THE ENG LOST POWER WHILE THE PLT WAS TURNING ON A BASE LEG FOR RWY 17 AT ABOUT 400 FT AGL. HE TRIED TO RESTART THE ENG. HOWEVER, THE LEFT WING HIT THE TOPS OF TREES & THE PLANE CRASHED DURING AN EMERGENCY LANDING. REPORTEDLY, THE FUEL SELECTOR WAS POSITIONED TO THE RIGHT TANK WHEN THE ENG LOST POWER. NO MEASURABLE AMOUNT OF FUEL WAS FOUND IN THE RIGHT TANK; HOWEVER, FUEL WAS AVAILABLE IN THE LEFT TANK.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N82717](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N82717-1983-12-14), registration cancelled 1983-12-14, S/N 28-8190286 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-181
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-181](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (registry code 7102807) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 28-8190286
- Airframe hours: 430
- Engines: LYCOMING O-360-181 180 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Tom Neuman
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, February 14, 1983, 63 hours before
- Airport: ANE, Anoka, runway 17, 4,800 × 100 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 29; commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 1,846 total, 243 in this make and model, 1,656 as pilot in command, 3 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 190° at 7 knots
- Visibility: 20 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 61 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19830426016199A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19830426016199A), Apr 26, 1983: Piper PA28181, Minneapolis, MN, Substantial damage. Engine quit en route. Trying to land in open field struck trees, fuel selector on empty tank, other tank full.

## Other investigations on N82717 (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI82FA365](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI82FA365), Sep 25, 1982: Piper PA-28-181 (N82717), Mankato, MN, destroyed, 2 fatal

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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