# NTSB CHI83LA427: Cessna 172, N6317D, Carbondale, IL, September 6, 1983

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: September 6, 1983, 17:30 local (22:30 UTC)
- Place: Carbondale, IL
- Coordinates: 37.719165, -89.210365 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=37.7192&lon=-89.2104&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 3 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 12344
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI83LA427
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/12344/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI83LA427

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - weather condition - gusts (contributing factor)
  - compensation for wind conditions - improper, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - lack of total experience, pilot in command (contributing factor)

## Analysis

THE INSTRUCTOR PLT (CFI) WAS PROVIDING A DUAL CHECK-OUT FOR A PRIVATE PLT IN THE CESSNA 172. AFTER FLYING IN THE LOCAL AREA, THEY RETURNED TO THE ARPT TO PRACTICE TOUCH-AND-GO LANDINGS ON RWY 18. THE WINDS WERE REPORTED FROM 190 DEG AT 20, GUSTING 25 KTS. ON THE 1ST APCH, THE PRIVATE PLT STALLED THE PLANE DURING THE LANDING & THE NOSEWHEEL HIT HARD. THE CFI TOOK CONTROL TO DEMONSTRATE THE CORRECT FLARE ON THE 2ND TOUCH-AND-GO. HOWEVER, THE ACFT WAS LANDED HARD AGAIN & THE NOSE TIRE BLEW OUT. SUBSEQUENTLY, THE ACFT BOUNCED & THE NOSEWHEEL TRACKED TO THE RIGHT. THE NOSE GEAR STRUT & ENG FIRE WALL WERE DAMAGED.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N6317D](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N6317D), registered now, S/N 17272715, built 1979 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 172
- Registry model: [Cessna 172N](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172n) (registry code 2072434) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 172-72715
- Airframe hours: 2266
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-H2AD 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: Bd. Trustees, S. Illinois Univ
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, March 9, 1983, 42 hours before
- Airport: MDH, Murphysboro, runway 18, 5,800 × 100 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 21; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: right; flight hours: 323 total, 30 in this make and model, 180 as pilot in command, 27 in the last 90 days, 20 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 190° at 20 knots, gusting 25
- Visibility: 7 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19830906049249A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19830906049249A), Sep 6, 1983: Cessna 172N, Carbondale, IL, Substantial damage. Instructor bounced and porpoised plane on demo landing. Impact blew the nose tire. Veered off runway. Bent firewall.

## Other investigations on N6317D (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ERA25LA213](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA25LA213), May 22, 2025: Cessna 172N (N6317D), Murfreesboro, TN, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot’s failure to maintain directional control of the airplane while attempting to take off in a gusty crosswind, which resulted in a runway excursion.
- [NTSB CHI03LA103](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI03LA103), Apr 11, 2003: Cessna 172N (N6317D), Carbondale, IL, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot failed to properly recover from a bounced landing which resulted in the airplane porpoising.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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