# NTSB CHI84LA086: Piper PA-38-112, N23781, Waukegan, IL, January 14, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: January 14, 1984, 11:00 local (17:00 UTC)
- Place: Waukegan, IL
- Coordinates: 42.370197, -87.860366 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.3702&lon=-87.8604&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 12527
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI84LA086
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/12527/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI84LA086

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - flare - improper, pilot in command (cause)
  - recovery from bounced landing - improper, pilot in command (cause)
- Nose gear collapsed, landing - flare/touchdown
  - landing gear,nose gear - overload

## Analysis

THE STUDENT PLT SAID HE LOST TOO MUCH AIRSPEED DURING A NO POWER APPROACH AND MADE A HARD LANDING. AFTER A BOUNCE, THE ACFT HIT ON THE NOSE GEAR AND IT COLLAPSED. THE ACFT SKIDDED OFF THE RWY INTO A SNOWBANK.

## Aircraft

- Registration: N23781 (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38-112
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 38-7911052
- Airframe hours: 1863
- Engines: LYCOMING O-235-L2C 112 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: Air Chicagoland, Ltd
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Utility; Standard, Normal
- Airport: UGN, Wauegan Memorial, runway 32, 3,750 × 75 ft, concrete

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 34; student; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 24 total, 24 in this make and model, 9 as pilot in command, 17 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 320° at 10 knots
- Visibility: 7 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19840114000839A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19840114000839A), Jan 14, 1984: Piper PA38112, Waukegan, IL, Substantial damage. Bounced and came back down on the nose wheel on landing. Impact broke the nose wheel strut.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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