# NTSB CHI85LA372: Piper PA-24-250, N7767P, Washington, IL, September 6, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: September 6, 1985, 16:30 local (21:30 UTC)
- Place: Washington, IL
- Coordinates: 40.690505, -89.4291 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.6905&lon=-89.4291&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 4 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 13208
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI85LA372
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/13208/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI85LA372

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, takeoff - initial climb
  - aircraft handling - improper, pilot in command (cause)
  - performance data - not used, pilot in command (cause)
  - weather condition - crosswind (contributing factor)
  - terrain condition - high vegetation (contributing factor)
  - unsuitable terrain or takeoff/landing/taxi area - selected, pilot in command (cause)
  - weather condition - high density altitude (contributing factor)
  - stall/mush - uncontrolled, pilot in command (cause)
- Overrun, takeoff - initial climb
- On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, takeoff - initial climb
  - terrain condition - rough/uneven (contributing factor)
  - terrain condition - crop (contributing factor)
  - landing gear,nose gear assembly - failure,total (contributing factor)
  - landing gear,main gear attachment - buckled (contributing factor)
  - wing,spar - buckled (contributing factor)

## Analysis

THE PLT ATTEMPTED TO TAKEOFF ON THE 1800 FT LONG GRASS AIRSTRIP WITH 3 PASSENGERS ON BOARD. A 90 DEG, 12 KT X-WIND WAS PRESENT AND THE OAT WAS 91 DEG F. AFTER LIFTOFF, THE ACFT SETTLED BACK ON THE AIRSTRIP AND CONTINUED OFF THE END INTO A BEAN FLD WHERE THE LANDING GEAR COLLAPSED.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N7767P](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N7767P), registered now, S/N 24-2983 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-24-250
- Registry model: [Piper PA-24-250](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-24-250) (registry code 7102404) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-540 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-540-series) (registry code 41532, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 24-2983
- Airframe hours: 3179
- Engines: LYCOMING O-540-A1D5 250 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: D. Schneider
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, November 15, 1984, 136 hours before
- Departed: C79, WASHINGTON, IL
- Destination: H63, WEST PLAINS, MO
- Airport: C79, Smittys, runway 27, 1,800 × 100 ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 39; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 363 total, 120 in this make and model, 304 as pilot in command, 44 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 180° at 12 knots
- Visibility: 15 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 91 °F, dew point 72 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: SPI, 13 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19850906043689A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19850906043689A), Sep 6, 1985: Piper PA24250, Washington, IL, Substantial damage. Ran off runway end into a soy bean field. Runway length inadequate for takeoff under that days conditions.

## Other investigations on N7767P (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB UNK64X3766](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/UNK64X3766), Sep 4, 1964: Piper PA24 (N7767P), Hinsdale, IL, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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