# NTSB CHI85LA386: Cessna 172 M, N9391H, Freemont, OH, September 21, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: September 21, 1985, 15:00 local (19:00 UTC)
- Place: Freemont, OH
- Coordinates: 41.350948, -83.109497 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.3509&lon=-83.1095&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 13219
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI85LA386
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/13219/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI85LA386

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, takeoff - initial climb
  - compensation for wind conditions - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - improper use of procedure, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - airspeed - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - qualification, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - inadequate training, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - inadequate training, pilot in command (contributing factor)
- In flight collision with object, takeoff - initial climb
  - object - fence (contributing factor)
  - object - tree(s) (contributing factor)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, descent - uncontrolled

## Analysis

THE PILOT STATED THAT JUST AFTER LIFTOFF A GUST OF WIND PUSHED HIM BACK DOWN ALMOST ON THE RUNWAY. HE COULD NOT ACCELERATE BUT DID KEEP THE AIRCRAFT STRAIGHT AND LEVEL AS HE DRIFTED OFF THE RUNWAY THROUGH A FENCE AND INTO SOME TREES AT A LOW AIRSPEED.  WHEN ASKED HOW THIS ACCIDENT MAY HAVE BEEN PREVENTED, HE STATED THAT HE NEEDED MORE DUAL INSTRUCTION.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N9391H](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N9391H-2023-01-14), registration cancelled 2023-01-14, S/N 17266134, built 1975 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 172 M
- Registry model: [Cessna 172M](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172m) (registry code 2072418) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 17266134
- Airframe hours: 2380
- Engines: LYCOMING 0320-E2D 150 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Gene Damschroder
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, September 20, 1985
- Airport: 140, Fremont, runway 9, 4,030 × 40 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 54; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 300 total, 130 in this make and model, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 240° at 5 knots
- Visibility: 4 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 81 °F, dew point 59 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: FDY, 42 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19850921051819A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19850921051819A), Sep 21, 1985: Cessna 172M, Fremont, OH, Substantial damage. Aircraft would not climb after an early liftoff. Mushed into a fence and a pasture off the runway end.

## Other investigations on N9391H (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ERA20CA235](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA20CA235), Jul 1, 2020: Cessna 172 (N9391H), Chesapeake, VA, substantial damage. Probable cause: The student pilot's improper landing flare and failure to recover from the ensuing bounced landing, which resulted in a runway excursion.
- [NTSB MIA780KT40](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA780KT40), Jan 24, 1978: Cessna 172 (N9391H), Cay Verde, Burkina Faso, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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