# NTSB CHI90LA228: Piper PA-28-161, N8085H, Greenwood, IN, August 11, 1990

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: August 11, 1990, 11:00 local (16:00 UTC)
- Place: Greenwood, IN
- Coordinates: 39.670051, -86.130134 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=39.6701&lon=-86.1301&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report December 14, 1992
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 14749
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI90LA228
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/14749/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI90LA228

## Probable cause

THE PILOT MISJUDGED THE LANDING FLARE AND THE AIRPLANE STALLED AND LANDED HARD.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, landing - flare/touchdown
  - flare - excessive, pilot in command (cause)
  - stall/mush - inadvertent, pilot in command
- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
- Main gear collapsed, taxi - from landing

## Analysis

DURING LANDING, THE AIRPLANE WAS FLARED TOO HIGH. THE AIRPLANE STALLED 8 TO 10 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND AND COLLIDED WITH THE RUNWAY. THE LEFT MAIN LANDING GEAR COLLAPSED AS THE AIRPLANE TAXIED OFF THE RUNWAY.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8085H](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8085H-2013-08-22), registration cancelled 2013-08-22, S/N 28-8016067, built 1979 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-161
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-161](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-161) (registry code 7102803) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 28-8016067
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-D3G 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Greenwood Flight Center, Inc.
- Airport: 5I1, Greenwood Municipal Arprt, runway 18, 3,672 × 50 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 37; student; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; flight hours: 49 total, 45 in this make and model, 9 as pilot in command, 9 in the last 90 days, 4 in the last 30 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: calm
- Visibility: 6 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 77 °F, dew point 66 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: IND, 11 nm away

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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