# NTSB CHI93LA011: Piper PA-22-160, N2945Z, Saline, MI, October 16, 1992

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Serious injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: October 16, 1992, 12:22 local (16:22 UTC)
- Place: Saline, MI
- Coordinates: 42.170341, -83.780982 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.1703&lon=-83.7810&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Serious injuries
- Injuries: 1 serious
- Status: Completed, report August 31, 1993
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 15607
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI93LA011
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/15607/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI93LA011

## Probable cause

THE PILOT'S FAILURE TO MAINTAIN AIRCRAFT CONTROL AND AIRSPEED.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, takeoff - initial climb
  - weather condition - crosswind (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - gusts (contributing factor)
  - planning/decision - poor, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - aircraft control - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - airspeed - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - stall
- In flight collision with terrain/water, descent - uncontrolled

## Analysis

THE PILOT TOOK OFF TO THE NORTH AND REACHED AN ALTITUDE OF APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET WHEN THE AIRPLANE APPEARED TO BE TURNING TO THE WEST.  DURING THE TURN, IT ENTERED WHAT WAS DESCRIBED AS A 45 DEGREE NOSE DOWN ATTITUDE AND DESCENDED TO IMPACT WITH THE TERRAIN.  WINDS AT A REPORTING STATION 4 NM FROM THE ACCIDENT SITE WERE REPORTED AS 280 DEGREE AT 25 KNOTS GUSTING TO 33 KNOTS.  BOTH THE WEST AND EAST SIDES OF THE RUNWAY ARE LINED WITH TREES.  POST ACCIDENT INSPECTION OF THE ENGINE AND FLIGHT CONTROLS FAILED TO REVEAL ANY FAILURE/MALFUNCTION.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2945Z](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2945Z-2012-10-19), registration cancelled 2012-10-19, S/N 22-6917, built 1959 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-22-160
- Registry model: [Piper PA-22-160](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-22-160) (registry code 7102214) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 22-6917
- Airframe hours: 1641
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-B2B 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Paul D. Cartman, Jr.
- Registered owner: Paul D. Cartman, Jr.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, June 8, 1992, 103 hours before
- Airport: Noye Airstrip, runway 36, 2,600 × 100 ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 27; commercial; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 731 total, 103 in this make and model

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 280° at 25 knots, gusting 33
- Visibility: 7 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 2,500 ft overcast
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: ARB, 4 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19921016042429A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19921016042429A), Oct 16, 1992: Piper PA22160, Saline, MI, Destroyed. Apparent mechanical problem on climbout. Stalled turning back to runway. Problem and cause unknown.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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