# NTSB CHI99LA279: Piper PA-28-161, N2366W, Schaumburg, IL, August 8, 1999 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report - Date: August 8, 1999, 16:15 local (21:15 UTC) - Place: Schaumburg, IL - Coordinates: 41.980339, -88.080917 (estimated) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.9803&lon=-88.0809&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Takeoff](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/300) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Highest injury: Minor injuries - Injuries: 1 minor, 1 uninjured - Status: Completed, report June 22, 2000 - Report: Approved by Office Director - NTSB case key (mKey): 47000 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=CHI99LA279 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/47000/pdf - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI99LA279 ## Probable cause the CFI's delay in taking remedial action to maintain directional control of the airplane. A factor associated with the accident was the student's improper use of the brakes. ## Sequence of events In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf). - Loss of control - on ground/water, takeoff - roll/run - brakes(normal) - improper use of, dual student (contributing factor) - remedial action - delayed, pilot in command(cfi) (cause) - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command(cfi) (cause) - On ground/water collision with object, takeoff - roll/run - object - aircraft parked/standing ## Analysis The CFI reported the student had the left brake applied as he began to add power for takeoff. The airplane veered to the left side of the runway. The CFI told the student to maintain the centerline, at which time the student took his foot off the brake and applied full power. The airplane continued off the runway, bounced over a ditch and onto the ramp. The CFI reduced the power to idle and applied brakes, but was unable to stop the airplane. She reported that the dual student had both feet on the rudder pedals, and she was unable to maneuver the airplane to avoid other airplanes on the ramp. The airplane contacted two airplanes parked on the ramp, one of which was pushed into a third airplane. ## Factual narrative On August 8, 1999, at 1615 central daylight time, a Piper PA-28- 161, N2366W, was substantially damaged when it collided with parked airplanes following a loss of directional control. The loss of control occurred during a takeoff roll on runway 11 (3,800 feet by 100 feet) at the Schaumburg Regional Airport, Schaumburg, Illinois. The certified flight instructor (CFI) was not injured and the dual student received minor injuries. The 14 CFR Part 91 local dual instructional flight was operating in visual meteorological conditions without a flight plan. The flight was originating at the time of the accident. The CFI reported the student had the left brake applied as he began to add power for takeoff. The airplane began veering to the left side of the runway. She reported she told the student to maintain the centerline, at which time he took his foot off the brake and applied full power. The CFI reported the airplane "...rolled off the runway bounced over a ditch and onto the ramp." She stated she reduced the power to idle and applied brakes, but was unable to stop the airplane. She reported the dual student had both feet on the rudder pedals and she was unable to maneuver the airplane to avoid other airplanes on the ramp. Post accident inspection by an inspector from the Federal Aviation Administration West Chicago Flight Standards District Office revealed the airplane began to veer to the left side of the runway approximately 450 feet into the takeoff roll. The airplane departed the left side of the runway after traveling an additional 150 feet. It then crossed through a grass area where it cleared a ditch. It continued over the parallel taxiway and onto the ramp where it contacted N3228W, a Beech Bonanza, and N13BR, a Piper Apache. When contacted, the Piper Apache was pushed rearward into N82AW, a T-28. The three of these airplanes were parked and unoccupied at the time. The CFI reported that this was the first time she had flown with this particular student. The student had approximately 10 hours of flight time. ## Aircraft - Registration: [N2366W](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N2366W), registered now, S/N 28-8516046 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: Piper PA-28-161 - Registry model: [Piper PA-28-161](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-161) (registry code 7102803) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 28-8516046 - Airframe hours: 9770 - Engines: Lycoming O-320-D3G 160 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Instructional, Part 91 - Operator: Northwest Flyers, Inc. - Registered owner: Three B'S Aero - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: 100 hour, July 23, 1999, 54 hours before - Departed: 06C - Airport: 063, Schaumburg, runway 11, 3,800 × 100 ft, concrete ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Pilot; age 28; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: right; flight hours: 350 total, 230 in this make and model, 250 as pilot in command, 60 in the last 90 days, 30 in the last 30 days, 2 in the last 24 hours ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: 30° at 12 knots, gusting 16 - Visibility: 10 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: 4,400 ft overcast - Temperature: 72 °F, dew point 55 °F - Altimeter: 30.00 inHg - Observed at: DPA, 10 nm away ## FAA reports on this event (1) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 19990808011039A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19990808011039A), Aug 8, 1999: Piper PA28161, Chicago/Schaumb, IL, Substantial damage. On takeoff roll, 600' from threshold of rwy 11, acft veered left off rwy, across taxiway, across ramp area, struck two acft, and stopped 20' from terminal… ## Other investigations on N2366W (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB CHI91LA121](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI91LA121), Apr 5, 1991: Piper PA-28-161 (N2366W), Schaumburg, IL, substantial damage. Probable cause: THE MECHANIC'S NOT UNDERSTANDING THE IDENTIFYING MARKS ON THE REPLACEMENT PART. A FACTOR IN THE ACCIDENT WAS THAT THE MECHANIC WAS PROVIDED WITH AN IMPROPER PART. From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. 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