# NTSB DEN84LA301: Piper PA-28-161, N8145V, Kiowa, CO, September 26, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: September 26, 1984, 10:30 local (16:30 UTC)
- Place: Kiowa, CO
- Coordinates: 39.340988, -104.459739 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=39.3410&lon=-104.4597&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Maneuvering](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/450) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 16491
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=DEN84LA301
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/16491/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN84LA301

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of engine power(total) - nonmechanical, maneuvering
  - emergency procedure - simulated, pilot in command(cfi)
  - fluid,fuel - starvation (cause)
  - fuel tank selector position - improper, dual student (cause)
  - altitude - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (contributing factor)
  - remedial action - not possible, pilot in command(cfi)
- Forced landing, descent - emergency
- On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, landing - roll
  - terrain condition - rough/uneven
  - terrain condition - high vegetation
  - landing gear,main gear - overload

## Analysis

WHILE PRACTICING A SIMULATED ENGINE FAILURE THE STUDENT PLT INAVERTANTLY SHUT OFF THE FUEL. DURING THE ACTUAL FORCED LANDING IN A ROUGH FIELD, THE ACFT CONTACTED A YUCCA PLANT AND A GEAR COLLAPSE RESULTED. THE CFI LATER REPORTED THE SPRING LOADED SAFTY STOP ON THE FUEL SELECTOR APPEARED NORMAL BUT IN FACT WAS BROKEN IN A MANNER WHICH ALLOWED THE SELECTOR HANDLE TO PASS OVER THE STOP WITHOUT HAVING TO DEPRESS THE STOP. THE CFI ALSO STATED THE STUDENT PLTS LEG OBSTRUCTED HIS VIEW OF THE SELECTOR SWITCH.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8145V](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N8145V), registered now, S/N 28-8016244 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-161
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-161](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-161) (registry code 7102803) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 28-8016244
- Airframe hours: 2130
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-D3G 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: L & H Leasing,Inc.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, March 7, 1984, 82 hours before
- Departed: APA, ENGLEWOOD, CO

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 24; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: right; flight hours: 565 total, 208 in this make and model, 515 as pilot in command, 303 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 180° at 5 knots
- Visibility: 35 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 45 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19840926051499A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19840926051499A), Sep 26, 1984: Piper PA28161, Kiowa, CO, Substantial damage. Student put fuel value on off when CFI requested change tanks on simulated forced landing. Safety stop inoperative.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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