# NTSB DEN85FA099: Cessna 182J, N3354F, Erie, CO, March 21, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Fatal · Field investigation · Final report
- Date: March 21, 1985, 12:10 local (19:10 UTC)
- Place: Erie, CO
- Coordinates: 40.020534, -105.040283 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.0205&lon=-105.0403&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Fatal
- Injuries: 2 fatal, 2 serious
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 16531
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=DEN85FA099
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/16531/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85FA099

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Overrun, landing
  - wrong runway - selected, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - tailwind (contributing factor)
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - displaced threshold (contributing factor)
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - downhill (contributing factor)
  - airspeed - excessive, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - distance - misjudged, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - proper touchdown point - not attained
  - aborted landing - delayed, pilot in command (cause)
- On ground/water collision with object, landing
  - object - runway light (contributing factor)
- Loss of control - in flight, other
  - go-around - delayed, pilot in command (cause)
  - terrain condition - ditch (contributing factor)
  - lift-off - initiated
  - weather condition - high density altitude (contributing factor)
  - airspeed(vlof) - not obtained, pilot in command (cause)
  - stall/mush - uncontrolled
- In flight collision with terrain/water, other
  - terrain condition - dirt bank/rising embankment (contributing factor)

## Analysis

REPORTEDLY, THE PLT HAD CALLED THE ARPT OFFICE (UNICOM) & WAS ADVISED THAT RWY 15/33 WAS CLOSED. AT ABOUT THE TIME N3354F WAS ARRIVING, A MILITARY HELICOPTER LANDED ON RWY 27. THE PLT ASKED A PASSENGER TO TELL HIM WHICH WAY THE WIND SOCK WAS BLOWING & SHE REPLIED THAT IT WAS 'FLYING WEST.'  THE PLT ELECTED TO LAND ON RWY 27 WHICH HAD A 533 FT DISPLACED THRESHOLD & HAD A DOWNHILL GRADE OF 1.52%. WITNESSES REPORTED THAT THE ACFT WAS FAST ON FINAL APCH & LANDED LONG. SUBSEQUENTLY, IT WENT OFF THE RGT SIDE OF THE RWY, NEAR THE DEPARTURE END, HIT A RWY LIGHT & CONTINUED ACROSS ROUGH TERRAIN. THE PLT APPLIED POWER & THE ACFT BECAME AIRBORNE AT THE EDGE OF A WIDE GULLY AREA. IT THEN SETTLED & IMPACTED A DIRT BANK AFTER CROSSING THE GULLY. SKID MARKS FROM THE ACFT WERE FOUND STARTING ABOUT 1366 FT FROM THE DEPARTURE END OF THE RWY & CONTINUED UNTIL THE ACFT LEFT THE RWY. NEARBY AT THE JEFFCO ARPT, THE 1145 MST WIND WAS FROM 140 DEG AT 14 KTS. THE DENSITY ALT AT THE CRASH SITE WAS APRX 6100 FT.

## Aircraft

- Registration: N3354F (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 182J
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 18257354
- Airframe hours: 2660
- Engines: CONTINENTAL O-470-R 230 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Ben P. & Elaine M. Fogle
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, July 6, 1984, 104 hours before
- Departed: LXV, LEADVILLE, CO
- Destination: 48V
- Flight plan: VFR
- Airport: 48V, Tri-County, runway 27, 3,830 × 60 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 45; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; toxicology performed; flight hours: 172 total, 104 in this make and model, 134 as pilot in command, 12 in the last 90 days, 6 in the last 30 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 140° at 14 knots
- Visibility: 30 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 54 °F, dew point 21 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: BJC, 7 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19850321008559A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19850321008559A), Mar 21, 1985: Cessna 182J, Erie, CO, Destroyed, 1 fatal. Attempted go around after landing on wrong downwind runway. Struck embankment. No NOTAM issued for closed runway.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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