# NTSB DEN85LA001: Piper PA-24-250, N5758P, Las Vegas, NM, October 3, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: October 3, 1984, 11:39 local (17:39 UTC)
- Place: Las Vegas, NM
- Coordinates: 35.590301, -105.22052 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=35.5903&lon=-105.2205&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Enroute](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/400) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 16586
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=DEN85LA001
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/16586/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85LA001

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of engine power(partial) - nonmechanical, cruise - normal
  - weather condition - carburetor icing conditions (contributing factor)
  - carburetor heat - improper use of, pilot in command (cause)
  - fuel system,carburetor - ice (cause)
- Forced landing, descent - emergency
- In flight collision with terrain/water, landing - flare/touchdown

## Analysis

THE PLT STATED HE WAS ON A X-COUNTRY FLT AND AFTER APRX 1.5 HRS, THE ENGINE STARTED TO RUN ROUGH. THE PLT ATTEMPTED TO CORRECT THE ROUGHNESS AND WHEN HE APPLIED THE CARB HEAT, THE ENGINE QUIT. THE PLT TURNED OFF THE CARB HEAT BUT POWER COULD NOT BE RESTORED AND AN EMERGENCY LANDING ON AN INTERSTATE BETWEEN TWO OVERPASSES WAS PLANNED. THE PLT DELAYED PUTTING THE GEAR DOWN UNTIL HIGH LINES WERE CLEARED. THE ACFT LANDED WITH THE GEAR UP. THE OUTSIDE AIR TEMP WAS 48 DEGS & THE DEW POINT WAS 47 DEGS. ACCORDING TO ICING PROBABILITY CHARTS, CONDITIONS WERE CONDUCIVE TO CARB ICE.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N5758P](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N5758P), registered now, S/N 24-834, built 1959 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-24-250
- Registry model: [Piper PA-24-250](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-24-250) (registry code 7102404) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-540 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-540-series) (registry code 41532, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 24-834
- Airframe hours: 1926
- Engines: LYCOMING O-540-A15A 250 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Fire: On-Ground
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Michael Barr
- Registered owner: Michael Barr
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, July 10, 1983, 50 hours before
- Departed: CLOVIS, NM
- Destination: DURANGO, CO
- Airport: LVS, Las Vegas Muni

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 44; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 613 total, 87 in this make and model, 5 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Day
- Wind: 160° at 8 knots
- Visibility: 3 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 1,000 ft
- Temperature: 48 °F, dew point 46 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: LVS, 7 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19841003058529A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19841003058529A), Oct 3, 1984: Piper PA24250, Las Vegas, NM, Substantial damage. Engine quit en route in low ceiling and fog. Forgot to put the gear down landing on I25. Carburetor icing a factor.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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