# NTSB DEN85LA044: Piper PA-28RT-201, N2193Y, Nucla, CO, December 15, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: December 15, 1984, 12:30 local (19:30 UTC)
- Place: Nucla, CO
- Coordinates: 38.259681, -108.550354 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=38.2597&lon=-108.5504&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 4 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 16610
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=DEN85LA044
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/16610/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN85LA044

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - weather condition - snow
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - snow covered (contributing factor)
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - icy (contributing factor)
  - brakes(normal) - excessive, pilot in command (cause)
  - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command
  - aborted landing - initiated, pilot in command
- On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, landing - roll
  - terrain condition - snowbank
- Nose gear collapsed, landing - roll
  - landing gear,nose gear assembly - overload

## Analysis

ACCORDING TO THE PLT, AFTER LANDING ON CENTERLINE BRAKES WERE APPLIED AND ICE ON THE RWY CAUSED THE ACFT TO VEER LEFT. AN ABORT WAS INITIATED BUT REALIZING THAT THE ACFT WAS GOING OFF THE SIDE OF THE RWY THE PLT SECURED THE ENG. THE NOSE GEAR COLLAPSED AS THE ACFT ROLLED INTO A SNOW BANK. OTHER ACFT LANDED SAFELY SHORTLY BEFORE AND AFTER THE ACCIDENT.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2193Y](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2193Y-2000-05-18), registration cancelled 2000-05-18, S/N 28R-7931148 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28RT-201 (PA-28RT-20)
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28RT-201T](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28rt-201t) (registry code 7102817) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 201T
- Airframe hours: 1058
- Engines: CONTINENTAL TSIO-360-FB 200 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: El Toro Marine Aero Club
- Registered owner: Sidney S. Seale
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, October 15, 1984, 31 hours before
- Departed: N2J, EL TORO, CA
- Flight plan: VFR
- Airport: 6V6, Hopkins-Montrose Co., runway 23, 4,600 × 75 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 27; commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 1,700 total, 10 in this make and model, 2,000 as pilot in command, 70 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 270° at 3 knots
- Visibility: 20 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 4,000 ft overcast
- Temperature: 34 °F, dew point 23 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: GJT, 50 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19841215066879A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19841215066879A), Dec 15, 1984: Piper PA28RT201T, Nucla, CO, Substantial damage. Applied brakes on a patch of ice. Skidded off runway into a snowbank. Was landing too close behind other aircraft.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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