# NTSB DEN86LA192: Piper PA-38, N2465B, Provo, UT, June 23, 1986

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: June 23, 1986, 08:00 local (14:00 UTC)
- Place: Provo, UT
- Coordinates: 40.220432, -111.690132 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.2204&lon=-111.6901&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 17007
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=DEN86LA192
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/17007/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN86LA192

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Abrupt maneuver, landing - flare/touchdown
  - rudder - improper use of, dual student (cause)
  - supervision - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
- Main gear collapsed, landing - flare/touchdown
  - landing gear,main gear - overload

## Analysis

THE STUDENT & INSTRUCTOR (CFI) WERE PRACTICING TOUCH-&-GO LNDGS. THE CFI RPRTD THAT DRG A LNDG, WHEN THE ACFT WAS APRX 6 INCHES ABOVE THE RWY, THE STUDENT SUDDENLY APPLIED FULL LEFT RUDDER. THE ACFT YAWED SHARPLY TO THE LEFT & THE CFI ATTEMPTED CORRECTIVE ACTION, BUT THE ACFT TOUCHED DOWN. THE RGT MAIN GEAR BROKE OFF & THE ACFT RAN OFF THE RGT SIDE OF THE RWY. AFTER DEPARTING THE RWY, THE LEFT MAIN GEAR ALSO BROKE OFF.

## Aircraft

- Registration: N2465B (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 38-79A0072
- Airframe hours: 1960
- Engines: LYCOMING O-235-L2C 112 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: Alpine Aviation, Inc.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal; Standard, Utility
- Last inspection: Annual, March 31, 1986, 0 hours before
- Airport: PVU, Provo Municipal, runway 24, 5,595 × 150 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 27; commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: right; flight hours: 384 total, 92 in this make and model, 292 as pilot in command, 117 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 220° at 4 knots
- Visibility: 20 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19860623036309A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19860623036309A), Jun 23, 1986: Piper PA38112, Provo, UT, Substantial damage. During landing flare, the student misapplied rudder. CFI attempted go around, touched down in a yaw, ran off runway

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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