# NTSB DEN88LA105: Cessna 185F, N8389Q, Erie, CO, April 30, 1988

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: April 29, 1988, 19:30 local (Apr 30, 1988, 01:30 UTC)
- Place: Erie, CO
- Coordinates: 40.020137, -105.040779 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.0201&lon=-105.0408&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report March 13, 1989
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 17469
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=DEN88LA105
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/17469/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN88LA105

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - diverted attention, pilot in command (contributing factor)
- Gear collapsed, landing - roll
  - terrain condition - soft (contributing factor)
  - landing gear,main gear - overload
- Nose down, landing - roll

## Analysis

THE COMMERCIAL PLT WAS PRACTICING TOUCH AND GO LANDINGS DURING A LOCAL FLIGHT.  DURING LANDING ROLL ON THE LAST LANDING, THE PILOT REACHED DOWN TO RETRACT LANDING FLAPS AND OPENED THE COWL FLAPS. HE THEN BECAME AWARE THAT THE AIRCRAFT WAS TURNING RIGHT.  LEFT RUDDER AND BRAKING DID NOT CORRECT THE TURN. THE AIRCRAFT DEPARTED THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE RUNWAY AND ENTERED SOFT UNEVEN TERRAIN.  THE LEFT MAIN GEAR COLLAPSED AND THE AIRCRAFT NOSED DOWN.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8389Q](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8389Q-2003-05-28), registration cancelled 2003-05-28, S/N 18503678, built 1978 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 185F
- Registry model: [Cessna A185F](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-a185f) (registry code 2072821) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental IO-520 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-io-520-series) (registry code 17032, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 18503678
- Airframe hours: 431
- Engines: CONTINENTAL IO-520-D 300 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Galloway, Daryl R.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, February 1, 1988, 39 hours before
- Departed: 48V
- Airport: 48V, Tri-County, runway 33, 5,400 × 65 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 48; commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane, helicopter; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 1,380 total, 132 in this make and model, 1,215 as pilot in command, 15 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Visibility: 100 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 70 °F
- Observed at: BJC

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19880429012329A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19880429012329A), Apr 29, 1988: Cessna A185F, Erie, CO, Substantial damage. Reached down to retract flaps and open cowl flaps on landing roll. Lost control veered off runway and nosed down.

## Other investigations on N8389Q (3)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB FTW95LA073](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW95LA073), Dec 23, 1994: Cessna A185F (N8389Q), Erie, CO, substantial damage. Probable cause: THE PILOT'S FAILURE TO MAINTAIN AIRSPEED RESULTING IN THE INADVERTENT STALL.
- [NTSB DEN90LA134](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN90LA134), Jun 13, 1990: Cessna A185F (N8389Q), Erie, CO, substantial damage. Probable cause: FAILURE OF THE PILOT RECEIVING INSTRUCTION TO CHOOSE SUITABLE TERRAIN FOR THE LANDING. CONTRIBUTING TO THE ACCIDENT WAS THE CFI'S INADEQUATE SUPERVISION.
- [NTSB DEN80FTE20](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DEN80FTE20), Jan 17, 1980: Cessna A185F (N8389Q), Colorado Spgs, CO, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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