# NTSB DFW08CA158: Aeros Venture, N43865, Baldwin City, KS, June 1, 2008

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report
- Date: June 1, 2008, 16:26 local (21:26 UTC)
- Place: Baldwin City, KS
- Coordinates: 38.835834, -95.192779
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=38.8358&lon=-95.1928&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Defining event: [Landing: Collision with terr/obj (non-CFIT) ](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report June 30, 2008
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: Kansas City, KS
- NTSB case key (mKey): 68156
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=DFW08CA158
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/68156/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DFW08CA158

## Probable cause

the pilot's failure to maintain proper runway alignment and the instructor's delayed remedial action to abort the landing, which resulted in a collision with a mailbox and hangar.  A factor was the crosswind.

## Findings

NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause.

- [Object/animal/substance: airport structure](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022042): Environmental issues › Physical environment · Not specified; cases with it: [Aeros VENTURE, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022042/cases.md?model=05904NV), [All aircraft, 50 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022042/cases.md)
- [Object/animal/substance](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022000): Environmental issues › Physical environment · Not specified; cases with it: [Aeros VENTURE, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022000/cases.md?model=05904NV), [All aircraft, 224 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022000/cases.md)
- [Action: delayed action](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041025): Personnel issues › Action/decision · Instructor/check pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Aeros VENTURE, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041025/cases.md?model=05904NV), [All aircraft, 894 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041025/cases.md)
- [Wind: crosswind](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034040): Environmental issues › Conditions/weather/phenomena · Contributed to outcome (probable cause); cases with it: [Aeros VENTURE, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034040/cases.md?model=05904NV), [All aircraft, 1,008 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034040/cases.md)
- [Performance/control parameters: crosswind correction](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062030): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Not attained/maintained (probable cause); cases with it: [Aeros VENTURE, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062030/cases.md?model=05904NV), [All aircraft, 184 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062030/cases.md)

## Sequence of events

The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened.

- [Landing: Collision with terr/obj (non-CFIT) ](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470) (defining event); cases with it: [Aeros VENTURE, 2 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md?model=05904NV), [All aircraft, 10,189 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md)

## Analysis

The 280-hour flight instructor was providing a 137-hour private pilot instruction in a weight-shift experimental light sport aircraft so he could obtain a sport pilot rating.  The instructor said that they were both at the control bar as the pilot was practicing a normal approach to land.  However, when the airplane was about 50 feet above the ground, the wind started to push the airplane to the left of the centerline.  The pilot was unable to get the airplane back on course with the runway and the instructor attempted to take over the controls.  There was not a positive exchange of controls and the airplane drifted further to the left and rapidly approached power lines, buildings, and trees.  The instructor realized that they would be unable to out climb these obstacles and elected to fly the airplane onto the ground under the power lines.  The airplane subsequently collided with a mailbox and a hangar resulting in substantial damage to the airplane's wing.  The buggy, a landing gear strut, the propeller, and windshield were also damaged.  The pilot reported there were no mechanical deficiencies with the airplane or the engine. The instructor stated that once the airplane started drifting off centerline, the landing should have been aborted and a go-around executed.

## Factual narrative

The 280-hour flight instructor was providing a 137-hour private pilot instruction in a weight-shift experimental light sport aircraft so he could obtain a sport pilot rating.  The instructor said that they were both at the control bar as the pilot was practicing a normal approach to land.  However, when the airplane was about 50 feet above the ground, the wind started to push the airplane to the left of the centerline.  The pilot was unable to get the airplane back on course with the runway and the instructor attempted to take over the controls.  There was not a positive exchange of controls and the airplane drifted further to the left and rapidly approached power lines, buildings, and trees.  The instructor realized that they would be unable to out climb these obstacles and elected to fly the airplane onto the ground under the power lines.  The airplane subsequently collided with a mailbox and a hanger resulting in substantial damage to the airplane's wing.  The buggy, a landing gear strut, the propeller, and windshield were also damaged.  The pilot reported there were no mechanical deficiencies with the airplane or the engine. The instructor stated that once the airplane started drifting off centerline, the landing should have been aborted and a go-around executed.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N43865](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N43865-2018-12-27), registration cancelled 2018-12-27, S/N GS-001 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Aeros Venture
- Registry model: [Aeros VENTURE](https://openairdocs.org/model/aeros-venture) (registry code 05904QO) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Amateur-built UNKNOWN ENG](https://openairdocs.org/engine/amateur-built-unknown-eng) (registry code 99999) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: GS-001
- Engines: Volkswagen 8135 cc reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: Robert S. Sundquist
- Airworthiness certificate: Special, Special light-sport (Special)
- Departed: K64, Baldwin City, KS

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Flight instructor; age 47; flight instructor, sport pilot; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: sport pilot; flight hours: 280 total, 11 in this make and model, 11 in the last 90 days, 11 in the last 30 days
- Pilot

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20080601838589A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080601838589A), Jun 1, 2008: Amtr VENTURE, Baldwin City, KS, Substantial damage. (-23) The pilot was unable to control the aircraft (weight shift control light sport aircraft) during the attempted landing on runway 16 at Vinland Valley…

## Other investigations on N43865 (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ANC18LA057](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC18LA057), Jul 23, 2018: Aeros Venture 2000 (N43865), Bad Axe, MI, substantial damage, 1 fatal. Probable cause: The pilot's loss of aircraft control for reasons that could not be determined based on the available information.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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