# NTSB FTW71FPD20: Piper PA-28, N8197N, Saginaw, TX, September 18, 1970

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: September 18, 1970
- Place: Saginaw, TX · SAGINAW, TX
- Location: 32.8657° N, 97.3657° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Saginaw, TX, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=32.8657&lon=-97.3657&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 3 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report January 28, 1971
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 169638
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=FTW71FPD20
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW71FPD20

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
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3-1857  70/9/18    SAGINAW,TEX         PIPER PA-28         CR-  0  0  2  INSTRUCTIONAL             COMMERCIAL, FL.INSTR.,
        TIME - 1830                    N8197N              PX-  0  0  1  DUAL                      AGE 50, 478 TOTAL HOURS,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            22 IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT
                                                                                                   RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - OLIVER FARM
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          FORT WORTH,TEX              LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           STALL: MUSH                                              TAKEOFF: INITIAL CLIMB
           COLLIDED WITH: FENCE,FENCEPOSTS                          TAKEOFF: INITIAL CLIMB
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - PREMATURE LIFT-OFF
           PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO OBTAIN/MAINTAIN FLYING SPEED
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - FAILED TO USE ALL AVAILABLE RUNWAY
        FACTOR(S)
           AIRPORTS/AIRWAYS/FACILITIES - AIRPORT CONDITIONS: SOFT RUNWAY
        REMARKS- SOFT FIELD T/O UPHILL,NOSE HI ATTITUDE.400FT OF RWY NOT USED.ACFT CLIMBED TO 4FT,MUSHED TO GND.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8197N](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8197N-2013-02-27), registration cancelled 2013-02-27, S/N 28-25395, built 1969 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-140](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-140) (registry code 7102802) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Oliver Farm

## Other investigations on N8197N (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB FTW76FPA09](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW76FPA09), Oct 18, 1975: Piper PA-28 (N8197N), Sherman, TX, destroyed

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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