# NTSB FTW75FRD43: Grumman G-164A, N7802, Welsh, LA, April 29, 1975

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Serious injuries · Closed
- Date: April 29, 1975
- Place: Welsh, LA · WELSH, LA
- Location: 30.2356° N, 92.8124° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Welsh, LA, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=30.2356&lon=-92.8124&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Maneuvering](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/450) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Serious injuries
- Injuries: 1 serious
- Status: Completed, report June 6, 1975
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 148500
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=FTW75FRD43
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW75FRD43

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-0963  75/4/29    WELSH,LA            GRUMMAN G-164A      CR-  0  1  0  COMMERCIAL                COMMERCIAL, AGE 23, 1430
        TIME - 0900                    N7802               PX-  0  0  0  ASSOC CROP CTL ACTIVITY   TOTAL HOURS, 300 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          WELSH,LA                    LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           STALL: MUSH                                              IN FLIGHT: BUZZING
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO OBTAIN/MAINTAIN FLYING SPEED
           PILOT IN COMMAND - IMPROPER OPERATION OF FLIGHT CONTROLS
        FACTOR(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - EXERCISED POOR JUDGMENT
         SPECIAL DATA
          TOTAL HOURS IN CROP CONTROL - UNKNOWN/NOT REPORTED       KIND OF OPERATION - SEEDING CROPS
          KIND OF CROP - RICE                                      TYPE OF CHEMICAL USED - UNKNOWN/NOT REPORTED
          PILOT' S SEAT BELT -FASTENED-PROPERLY                    GLOVES - NOT USED
          GOGGLES - USED                                           CRASH HELMET - AVAILABLE USED
          COCKPIT CRASHPAD - INSTALLED                             CRASH BAR - INSTALLED
          TANK/HOPPER-LOCATION - FORWARD OF PILOT
        REMARKS- PLT ATTMPTD LO ALT AILERON ROLL.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N7802](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N7802-1996-04-15), registration cancelled 1996-04-15, S/N 991 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: GRUMMAN G-164A
- Registry model: [Grumman Acft ENG Cor-Schweizer G-164A](https://openairdocs.org/model/grumman-acft-eng-cor-schweizer-g-164a) (registry code 3952801) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19750429010509A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19750429010509A), Apr 29, 1975: Gulstm G164C, Welsh, LA, Substantial damage. Plt attmptd lo alt aileron roll.

## Other investigations on N7802 (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB FTW90DPG03](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW90DPG03), Jul 16, 1990: Grumman G164-A (N7802), Rondo, AR, substantial damage. Probable cause: THE POWER LOSS FOR UNDETERMINED REASONS.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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