# NTSB FTW77FRG68: Piper PA-25, N8835L, Charlotte, TX, September 9, 1977 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · Serious injuries · Closed - Date: September 9, 1977 - Place: Charlotte, TX · CHARLOTTE, TX - Location: 28.8593° N, 98.7006° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Charlotte, TX, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=28.8593&lon=-98.7006&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Maneuvering](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/450) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Highest injury: Serious injuries - Injuries: 1 serious, 1 uninjured - Status: Completed, report October 28, 1977 - Report: Brief approved by the director - NTSB case key (mKey): 158634 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=FTW77FRG68 - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW77FRG68 ## NTSB brief (aircraft 2) ``` ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA                                                                F  S M/N     PURPOSE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-2874   77/9/9    CHARLOTTE,TX        PIPER PA-25         CR-  0  1  0  COMMERCIAL                COMMERCIAL, AGE 28, 4000         TIME - 1030                    N4391Y              PX-  0  0  0  AERIAL APPLICATION        TOTAL HOURS, UNK/NR IN                                        DAMAGE-DESTROYED    OT-  0  0  1                            TYPE, NOT INSTRUMENT                                                                                                    RATED.         DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION           CHARLOTTE,TX                LOCAL         TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION            COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH IN FLIGHT                  IN FLIGHT: STARTING SWATH RUN         PROBABLE CAUSE(S)            PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO SEE AND AVOID OTHER AIRCRAFT            PERSONNEL - MISCELLANEOUS-PERSONNEL: PILOT OF OTHER AIRCRAFT          SPECIAL DATA           TOTAL HOURS IN CROP CONTROL - 4000                       KIND OF OPERATION - SPRAYING CROPS           KIND OF CROP - OTHER                                     TYPE OF CHEMICAL USED - LIQUID CHEMICAL-NONTOXIC           PILOT' S SEAT BELT -UNKNOWN/NOT REPORTED                 GLOVES - NOT USED           GOGGLES - NOT USED                                       CRASH HELMET - AVAILABLE USED           COCKPIT CRASHPAD - INSTALLED                             CRASH BAR - NOT INSTALLED           TANK/HOPPER-LOCATION - FORWARD OF PILOT                  TERRAIN-TYPE -LEVEL,FLAT           ELEVATION-AREA BEING TREATED-FEET -  600                 SWATH RUN-HOW FLOWN - CROSSWIND          SPECIAL DATA           SEGMENTS OF AVIATION INVOLVED - SMALL US GEN.AV.-SMALL US GEN.AV.           CONTROLLING AGENCY - NO CONTROL                          RADAR CTL/SURVEILLANCE - NOT UNDER RADAR CONTACT           TRAFFIC ADVISORY ISSUED - NONE                           CONVERGENCE ANGLE-DEGREES -  0           HORIZONTAL COLLISION ANGLE-DEGREES -   0                 VERTICAL COLLISION ANGLE-DEGREES -  5           EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN - NO          FIRE AFTER IMPACT         REMARKS- 3 ACFT ON SAME JOB. ``` ## NTSB brief (aircraft 1) ``` ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA                                                                F  S M/N     PURPOSE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-2874   77/9/9    CHARLOTTE,TX        PIPER PA-25         CR-  0  0  1  COMMERCIAL                COMMERCIAL, AGE 48, 15500         TIME - 1030                    N8835L              PX-  0  0  0  AERIAL APPLICATION        TOTAL HOURS, 7500 IN                                        DAMAGE-DESTROYED    OT-  0  1  0                            TYPE, NOT INSTRUMENT                                                                                                    RATED.         DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION           CHARLOTTE,TX                LOCAL         TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION            COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH IN FLIGHT                  IN FLIGHT: STARTING SWATH RUN         PROBABLE CAUSE(S)            PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO SEE AND AVOID OTHER AIRCRAFT            PERSONNEL - MISCELLANEOUS-PERSONNEL: PILOT OF OTHER AIRCRAFT          SPECIAL DATA           TOTAL HOURS IN CROP CONTROL - 9999                       KIND OF OPERATION - SPRAYING CROPS           KIND OF CROP - OTHER                                     TYPE OF CHEMICAL USED - LIQUID CHEMICAL-NONTOXIC           PILOT' S SEAT BELT -UNKNOWN/NOT REPORTED                 GLOVES - NOT USED           GOGGLES - NOT USED                                       CRASH HELMET - AVAILABLE USED           COCKPIT CRASHPAD - INSTALLED                             CRASH BAR - NOT INSTALLED           TANK/HOPPER-LOCATION - FORWARD OF PILOT                  TERRAIN-TYPE -LEVEL,FLAT           ELEVATION-AREA BEING TREATED-FEET -  600          SPECIAL DATA           SEGMENTS OF AVIATION INVOLVED - SMALL US GEN.AV.-SMALL US GEN.AV.           CONTROLLING AGENCY - NO CONTROL                          RADAR CTL/SURVEILLANCE - NOT UNDER RADAR CONTACT           TRAFFIC ADVISORY ISSUED - NONE                           CONVERGENCE ANGLE-DEGREES -  0           HORIZONTAL COLLISION ANGLE-DEGREES -   0                 VERTICAL COLLISION ANGLE-DEGREES -  5           EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN - NO          FIRE AFTER IMPACT ``` ## Aircraft 1 - Registration: [N8835L](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8835L-1981-10-19), registration cancelled 1981-10-19, S/N 255346 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER PA-25 - Registry model: [Piper PA-25](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-25) (registry code 7102502) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Engines: reciprocating - Damage: Destroyed ## Aircraft 2 - Registration: [N4391Y](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N4391Y-1981-05-06), registration cancelled 1981-05-06, S/N 25-4901, built 1969 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER PA-25 - Registry model: [Piper PA-25-235](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-25-235) (registry code 7102504) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Engines: reciprocating - Damage: Destroyed ## FAA reports on this event (2) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 19770909028511A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19770909028511A), Sep 9, 1977: Piper PA25260, Charlotte, TX, Destroyed - [Accident 19770909028512A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19770909028512A), Sep 9, 1977: Piper PA25235, Charlotte, TX, Destroyed. 3 Acft on same job. ## Other investigations on N8835L (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB FTW76DQG82](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW76DQG82), Jul 20, 1976: Piper PA-25 (N8835L), Idalou, TX, destroyed From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.